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[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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I found it amusing that there are African American reenactors who are portraying confederate soldiers.
I am not sure if it's cluelessness or a bold step towards overcoming personal prejudice but I haven't found it to be a big deal (confederate pride that is) amongst the black people I know. (I prefer to say black vs African American because AA sounds as though they are still foreign in some way.)
I find it helps to study the history of the people and what they really fought for and the actual implications of various things on people's lives at that time before making sweeping accusations and furthering more than a century of prejudice.
Slavery is an inherently monstrous and inefficient system that inevitably leads to loss rather than gain for all parties. I find myself more aligned though with the arguments presented for the Confederate position in history than for the Union by force practiced by the north.
As to the confederate tartan? I probably wouldn't get a kilt in it simply because I have a host of other tartans that are much higher on my list.
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 Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor
I found it amusing that there are African American reenactors who are portraying confederate soldiers.
Why not? They are simply being historically accurate. And many of them can trace ancestry that way.
I am not sure if it's cluelessness or a bold step towards overcoming personal prejudice but I haven't found it to be a big deal (confederate pride that is) amongst the black people I know. (I prefer to say black vs African American because AA sounds as though they are still foreign in some way.)
It's not a "big deal" among most whites, either. Just some - of all groups.
I find it helps to study the history of the people and what they really fought for and the actual implications of various things on people's lives at that time before making sweeping accusations and furthering more than a century of prejudice.
Exactly.
Slavery is an inherently monstrous and inefficient system that inevitably leads to loss rather than gain for all parties.
Sure. No question. But that was not the view of most of the world a couple of centuries ago. (And some of the world even today.)
I find myself more aligned though with the arguments presented for the Confederate position in history than for the Union by force practiced by the north.
As to the confederate tartan? I probably wouldn't get a kilt in it simply because I have a host of other tartans that are much higher on my list.
Concur. But this discussion is out of place in this forum, imo. I shall now go silent on the subject.
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That is the solution that we in Georgia have come to ( sorry Forrester ). It didn't satisfy everyone but as the old saying goes, you can't please everyone.
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On a cross-country trip with my son, we were delighted by the Kimo Theater in Alberquerque. Absolutely amazing, beautiful decorations inside, (Pueblo Art Deco) including many swastikas. They educate people on the original meaning of the symbol and keep it on display. Good for them!!
You'll also find pre-WWII examples of its use by the 45th Infantry Division, made up mostly of Oklahoma NG units -- the "Thunderbirds" wore it on their shoulder patches until 1939 when it was replaced by a Thunderbird, for obvious reasons.
T.
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 Originally Posted by cavscout
That is the solution that we in Georgia have come to ( sorry Forrester  ). It didn't satisfy everyone but as the old saying goes, you can't please everyone.
Oh, I know. But my CSA yacht flag (the Stars and Bars with a fouled anchor within the circle of stars), is now often mistaken for a Georgia flag. (Even though it predates the current Georgia flag by several years.)
Last edited by jForrester; 6th July 10 at 09:46 AM.
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 Originally Posted by jForrester
Oh, I know. But my CSA yacht flag (the Stars and Bars with a fouled anchor within the circle of stars), is now often mistaken for a Georgia flag. (Even though it predates the current Georgia flag by several years.)
Cousin Forrester,
Is that you with the SC Colour Guard for the CSS Hunley ceremony as seen on the Forrester Family website?
Last edited by Lallans; 6th July 10 at 10:09 AM.
Reason: changed tense
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 Originally Posted by Canuck of NI
Cousin Forrester,
Is that you with the SC Colour Guard for the CSS Hunley ceremony as seen on the Forrester Family website?
Yes, it is. I am Captain of the Guard (Was First Sgt. back then), and am currently 2nd Brigade Lt. Commander of South Carolina SCV. BTW: Our 16th South Carolina Color Guard will lead the flags at the opening ceremonies of the SCV National Convention later this month.
Last edited by jForrester; 6th July 10 at 10:38 AM.
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LOL Oh, and my statement about "pleasing everyone" wasn't directed at your post, it was referring to the extremes on both sides who weren't pleased with the compromise.
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6th July 10, 09:45 AM
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 Originally Posted by cavscout
LOL  Oh, and my statement about "pleasing everyone" wasn't directed at your post, it was referring to the extremes on both sides who weren't pleased with the compromise. 
Isn't that what a compromise is? A solution designed to equally displease the extremists on both sides.
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