what is the name for this?

**JamieKerr** · 12th February 08, 01:00 AM

Can someone tell me the name of the lacy garment worn around this gentleman's neck? I find it to be a very classy alternative to the tie...

**Moosedog** · 12th February 08, 01:05 AM

I think it is a "jabot."

Moosedog

**JamieKerr** · 12th February 08, 01:08 AM

Thats it! Thank you sir

**Tahshar** · 12th February 08, 01:55 AM

The lace cuffs come with, the shirt worn must have a button on collar, and fasten with studds <no buttons>, this is the max "black tie" formal rig. If you would wear "black tie and tails" not just a tux, this is what would be appropriate with the kilt. Barb. T. I believe posted a great link about all this, written by.. mmm some famous dead guy who was the worlds leading kilt historian and authority, advisor to the royal court on such matters etc.

If I werent so hopeless at finding things I would link it. Its here, I saw it a couple days ago.

**Phil** · 12th February 08, 03:13 AM

My jabot is fixed with studs to a collarless shirt but that's mainly because it's nearly 60 years old and that's how they did it then. The modern ones fasten with velcro as do the cuffs and I would recommend just wearing a T-shirt under the doublet with the jabot round your neck. Much cooler that way.

**slohairt** · 12th February 08, 10:21 AM

I concur with the T-shirt idea, Phil. I did that at a summer wedding!

Tahshar, doublets with cuffs and jabot are actually considered white tie not black tie. A step above.

Jamiekerr, no one has mentioned this, and I'm not sure if you know, but it's pronounced JA-BOE. Just so you don't ask for a JABBITT!

**JS Sanders** · 12th February 08, 11:00 AM

And I might add, in regards to the photo....

The model is wearing ghillie brogues with a Montrose Doublet. Those shoes are better suited to jacket & necktie, not formalwear.

I don't get bent outta shape when it's done, but formal footwear should be buckle brogues, also known as 'Mary Jane shoes'. TartanWeb carries them.

And correctly, the model is wearing the proper hose.

Slainte yall,
steve

**Phil** · 12th February 08, 11:13 AM

I draw the line at the lace cuffs myself. A personal thing I know but I think they are just a bit OTT (and they are liable to go into your soup!). The jabot is a bit special though and great if you want to stand out from the crowd.

**gilmore** · 12th February 08, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Phil

I draw the line at the lace cuffs myself. A personal thing I know but I think they are just a bit OTT (and they are liable to go into your soup!). ....

True, but they work quite well for straining the lumps out of one's soup.

**JamieKerr** · 12th February 08, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by slohairt

Jamiekerr, no one has mentioned this, and I'm not sure if you know, but it's pronounced JA-BOE. Just so you don't ask for a JABBITT!

I did not know, and that was actually going to be one of my next questions lol.

Is this the style shoe you are referring to at tartan web? "culloden"

And secondly. That gentleman's hose are absolutely beautiful. Where might I find a pair like that? Err...the hose I mean