what is the name for this?

[Chef]

The shoe referred to above are buckle brogues:


They are considered the dressiest kilt shoe although I truly hate them.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

The shoe referred to above are buckle brogues:


They are considered the dressiest kilt shoe although I truly hate them.

I feel betrayed! How can a fellow kilt snob HATE buckled dress brogues? (Love the new avatar, BTW) I know, he's actually seen them and realizes that they don't look "quite right". Which they don't. I've put a pair of antique buckles on mine, but that still doesn't make it for me. Close, but no cigar. I didn't know what was wrong until I saw a pair dating from BTHW (Before The Hitler War). These were patent leather (like mine) but made with extremely think soles, virtually no welt, and had less of a rounded toe. WOWEE!!! What an elegant shoe. Possibly even elegant enough for Lord Snooty to change his mind.

[Chef]

I feel betrayed! How can a fellow kilt snob HATE buckled dress brogues?

Fear not brother, I said I hate them not that I didn't wear them. As much as I dislike them I figure if they are good enough for an officer they are good enough for me. Besides, tis the burden we must bear as a proper "Kilt Snob"

I didn't know what was wrong until I saw a pair dating from BTHW (Before The Hitler War). These were patent leather (like mine) but made with extremely think soles, virtually no welt, and had less of a rounded toe. WOWEE!!! What an elegant shoe. Possibly even elegant enough for Lord Snooty to change his mind.

I think I've seen a picture of these and your right they do look much better, now if we can just find a couple of pairs in the right size.

(Love the new avatar, BTW)

Thanks, I just wish Lord Snooty had worn a kilt.

[Jack Daw]

The shoe referred to above are buckle brogues:


They are considered the dressiest kilt shoe although I truly hate them.

With all due respect to those that like them, you'll never catch me wearing the mary janes. I'm not too crazy about ghillie brogues either, but that's as far as I will go for semi-formal and formal.

I have two pair of the brogues. One is for semi-formal and formal; and, the other is to wear for piping competitions. Most competitions are held outdoors, sometimes in the rain; somtimes on ranch land.

[sharpdressedscot]

Hmm, no offense but I don't like the brogues either, I dunno they look like something my mom would wear... but that's just my opinion, I don't want to start anything.

[Phil]

Hmm, no offense but I don't like the brogues either, I dunno they look like something my mom would wear... but that's just my opinion, I don't want to start anything.

Hmm, no offense but I don't like the brogues either, I dunno they look like something my mom would wear... but that's just my opinion, I don't want to start anything.

Don't you think there are enough people in this world passing judgement on others based on their own gender stereotypes? My mom never wore anything remotely like these buckle brogues and, if you were honest, neither did yours. She may have sometimes worn patent shoes. She may even have sometimes worn patent shoes with a strap across the top of her foot. She might even once have worn shoes with silver buckles on them, although I doubt that. But she will not have worn patent shoes with pierced leather in the fashion of brogues and with silver buckles. They are a particular style of shoe which has, perhaps, now gone out of fashion just like the black & white co-respondent shoes or spats that people used to wear 50 or 60 years ago. Montrose and sheriffmuir doublets are possibly throwbacks to the 1700's and PCs and regulation or dress doublets to Victorian times. This does not mean your "mom" would have worn them either, just that you have a stereotypical attitude to what is and is not acceptable forms of dress, entirely dependant on which gender an accident of birth has bestowed upon you. The natural progression from this is to then ask yourself the question "Should I really be wearing a kilt, as it is a form of clothing not too dissimilar from that worn by many female members of the society I live in including, of course, my mom?"