Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
Jeff, I think you may be misreading Steves post. He specifically states " Along each Sett of the Tartan used for the back of the kilt there is a white bar woven in" which is pretty much the same as what Matt expanded on.
Tony

I am not misreading anything, believe me. I completely understand that these kilts pictured are made of "some" tartan that has the white bars specially woven into in such a pattern as to make the saltire when pleated appropriately, and I agree wholeheartedly with that, both as Steve describes that portion and as Matt repeats it. But Steve attributes it to STA ITI#6152, aka a tartan design specifically known as "Saltire" which itself was designed to also form a saltire pattern in the pleats when pleated a certain way. I contend that the kilts shown are NOT made from 6152 no matter whether extra white bars are sewn into a section of it or not, as the tartan pattern for 6152 as shown above does not match the tartan pattern in the aprons of the saltire kilts being shown.

I believe they are two different ways of achieving likely similar but not identical results. The saltire kilts we are seeing have a simple apron tartan pattern, and then a different but similar tartan for the pleated section that has the specially woven in and located white bars that eventually make the saltire. The STA ITI#6152 "Saltire" tartan has an entirely different threadcount from the tartan in the aprons of the above saltire kilts, so these kilts cannot be made from 6152. I believe the second way of achieving a result similar to the above shown saltire pattern in the pleats is to creatively use the 6152 tartan and, without adding any additional white bars, form the saltire in the pleats by varying the center of each pleat to a different point in the sett, i.e., pleating neither to sett or to stripe but rather to "saltire", albeit the saltire in this situation would not have angled upper and lower margins to the white "bars" as these kilts do. I just would like to see that sometime instead of these custom made versions.

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