This thread has sewn together a pretty broad range of views - from the love 'em and wear 'em gang, to the hate 'em on principle opposition.

Each to their own, I guess...

But for those who would-but-not-sure in the middle-ground, what about these?

https://www.cheaney.co.uk/pitlochry-...okbinder-p1759

Shoes don't come much better than Cheaney's and with these you get the best of both worlds - the ghillie-style lacing on a full brogue, but with short laces and a conventional tongue.

Surely these bridge the gap, and could easily be worn with trousers if desired, so not solely with-me-kilt shoes.

Yea or nay..?

Cheaney's own RRP is a bit rich at £460, but retailers like House of Bruar has them listed at £395 - so it pays to shop around.