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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    They identify us with it because that's what we've exported to their countries. McDonald's, Starbucks, Levi's jeans, and stuff like that may be the only view they have of what America is like. How in the world would they know anything about small-town rural life here?

    Of course, I'm sure every culture wants to face-palm over how the rest of the world views them. Just as the Scots tend to roll their eyes at the idea that Americans think of Scotland as a nation full of anachronistic kilt-wearing Highlanders with blue face paint and two-handed claymores, and just as the Germans perhaps cringe at the thought of the rest of the world thinking of them as pilsner-drinking, wurst-and-sauerkraut-eating guys in lederhosen (or worse, the WWII-era connotation). We all view our own native cultures differently than the world stereotypes us. Sadly, though, we Americans have not done a very good job of broadcasting who we are except for the worst examples of commercialised mass-marketed garbage.
    Well Idk...There are enough movies, tv shows, and books that give a glimpse, even if it is small, of what normal American life is like. I think it's pretty obvious, given our huge role in making of movies and our grip on the media, that Mickey Mouse and Big Macs isnt the only side of America that is shown to the world.

    The second paragraph if what you wrote is very sad but true.
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    Re: Lederhosen...Germany's Kilt

    Quote Originally Posted by MeghanWalker View Post
    Well Idk...There are enough movies, tv shows, and books that give a glimpse, even if it is small, of what normal American life is like. I think it's pretty obvious, given our huge role in making of movies and our grip on the media, that Mickey Mouse and Big Macs isnt the only side of America that is shown to the world.

    The second paragraph if what you wrote is very sad but true.
    Even if they were briefly exposed to what "normal American life" is like, that doesn't mean it's the overall impression they walk away with. I think you underestimate the power of marketing and the power of suggestion! It is the loud noises that people hear and remember. It's the shocking visual images that they see and remember. And it's the odd cultural differences that form their perceptions of who we are. The same is true all over the world. It's not like they study all facets of American life and intentionally form a well-educated opinion about what they think our country is like. Some probably do, but in general, the 'masses' don't. They just get bits and pieces of America, and it sticks in their minds.

    Heck, I even remember when I was in high school, two kids moved down here to Texas with their family. They were shocked and disappointed that we didn't all ride horses and have oil wells in our yards. They truly were under the impression (thanks to Hollywood) that that's the way Texas was. Never underestimate the power of television to completely bastardize a culture for entertainment purposes!

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    Re: Lederhosen...Germany's Kilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    Even if they were briefly exposed to what "normal American life" is like, that doesn't mean it's the overall impression they walk away with. I think you underestimate the power of marketing and the power of suggestion! It is the loud noises that people hear and remember. It's the shocking visual images that they see and remember. And it's the odd cultural differences that form their perceptions of who we are. The same is true all over the world. It's not like they study all facets of American life and intentionally form a well-educated opinion about what they think our country is like. Some probably do, but in general, the 'masses' don't. They just get bits and pieces of America, and it sticks in their minds.

    Heck, I even remember when I was in high school, two kids moved down here to Texas with their family. They were shocked and disappointed that we didn't all ride horses and have oil wells in our yards. They truly were under the impression (thanks to Hollywood) that that's the way Texas was. Never underestimate the power of television to completely bastardize a culture for entertainment purposes!


    I guess but Ive never been to Texas and am not living under a rock. I know thats not what Texas is like. If someone thinks it is, forgive me, but I think they're not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

    I guess I equate it with Americans thinking that all Middle Easterners are violent, oppressed and evil or that Ireland is all drunk people and Scots all run around waving claymores in the air with kilts on. That's offensive, is it not? Therefore, for someone to think that America is all cheeseburgers and Mickey is just as offensive.

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    Tobus, you don't have an oil well in your yard? Whatever do you tie your horse to?
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    Re: Lederhosen...Germany's Kilt

    Although I am of Scottish heritage on both sides of my family, my great grandmother on my Mother's side was German. She was very much the family matriarch. As such, it is quite natural for me to celebrate both my Highland and German heritages. I have both lederhosen and bundhosen and appropriate accessories. Generally, I only wear Trachen clothing on certain occasions or at a German festival. On the other hand, when I am kilted, I feel like I am "me" and feel comfortable wearing a kilt pretty much anywhere. I'll wear Trachten clothing a couple of times a year, but will be kilted several times a month. BTW - good lederhosen, made of deerskin and bone buttons with hand embroidered designs approach the cost of a wool kilt. A friend of mine ran into me last Christmas at a German Christmas festival and was surprised to see me in lederhosen. He asked what the deal was, and I said , basically, I'll go to any festival where they serve beer! My wife, who is also both German and Scottish, has several dirndls, and if I do say so, she looks absolutely beautiful in them!
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    Re: Lederhosen...Germany's Kilt

    Query for the Brits among the Rabble:

    What are the below-knee-length trousers used with Country Socks called and what is the etiquette and frequency of their wearing?

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    Re: Lederhosen...Germany's Kilt

    Quote Originally Posted by James Hood View Post
    Query for the Brits among the Rabble:

    What are the below-knee-length trousers used with Country Socks called and what is the etiquette and frequency of their wearing?
    They are called breeks, and where I hail from they're worn shooting, although I do see a lot of ramblers wearing them as they tramp about the hills.

    I used to buy mine from William Powell (www.william-powell.co.uk), along with my shooting socks.

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