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11th March 12, 11:23 AM
#31
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
I've been known to own and wear pink shirts back when I owned and wore suits. Don't own any pink shirts or suits anymore.
Pondering the questions I think the pink hose somehow make the rest of the outfit look "top heavy"...its a proportion thing as well as a color thing...
Sort of like a tree being chopped down....
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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11th March 12, 11:34 AM
#32
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
I've been known to own and wear pink shirts back when I owned and wore suits. Don't own any pink shirts or suits anymore.
Pondering the questions I think the pink hose somehow make the rest of the outfit look "top heavy"...its a proportion thing as well as a color thing...
Sort of like a tree being chopped down....
I'm not so sure that's due to the pink on the bottom... If you look at how the outfit is all faded, worn, and ancient on the bottom, then crisp, clean, sharp, and new on top...
If instead of the antique sporran (which I love so very very much) he were wearing a sharp, black leather one, I think that the top-heavy issue would disappear entirely.
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11th March 12, 11:37 AM
#33
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
Or if he were wearing tweed instead of the crisp merino.
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11th March 12, 02:24 PM
#34
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
The hose work with the Dukes Tartan [imho] because the intensity of the 'dusty pink' and the intensity of the light green are roughly the same. Further, when we start to think of the kilt as a neutral, disregarding the tartan aspect, and ask if the hose tone well with the rest of the outfit we notice that the intensity of the hose works well with the intensity of the light charcoal grey jacket. Again, just my opinions.
Rondo
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11th March 12, 05:02 PM
#35
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
 Originally Posted by paulhenry
Of course he might just like pink hose , and like many of us , simply wear what we favour , or what we happen to have in the wardrobe or chest, without worrying too much about precise matching or co ordinating.... it's just a thought!
Exactly! That's the way I approach these matters.
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11th March 12, 05:41 PM
#36
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
Exactly! That's the way I approach these matters.
Me too, however if we all (the rabble) didnt analyze Highland attire in different ways, what on Earth would we all have to talk about on the forum? Hahaha!
Cheers,
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16th March 12, 05:38 AM
#37
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
Me too! And notice they arent the disgusting thick soled, Doc Martin style of ghillies! Haha!
I understand Jock Scot's dislike of ghillie brogues in general. I understand MoR's dislike of those with chunky soles, including but not limited to(?) those with Dr. Martens type soles. I'm pretty sure Sandy MacLean has expressed a dislike for them as well. And while I appreciate your desire to emulate these knowledgeable and respected gentlemen, you are of a generation that actually wears Doc Martens. They may not be "traditional" in the sense that they weren't worn until recently, but they're shoes. My dad's Vietnam War era combat boots had leather soles. I bet yours didn't, did they? Things change. As a member of a pipe band who has had to walk 5 miles on asphalt on the 4th of July carrying a 20 lb. drum, I consider my Dr. Martens-type ghillie brogues a Godsend. We all have opinions and we're all free to express them, but your constant deprecation of these shoes on this forum is downright insulting.
Sorry. I just had to get that off my chest.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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16th March 12, 07:23 AM
#38
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
I understand Jock Scot's dislike of ghillie brogues in general. I understand MoR's dislike of those with chunky soles, including but not limited to(?) those with Dr. Martens type soles. I'm pretty sure Sandy MacLean has expressed a dislike for them as well. And while I appreciate your desire to emulate these knowledgeable and respected gentlemen, you are of a generation that actually wears Doc Martens. They may not be "traditional" in the sense that they weren't worn until recently, but they're shoes. My dad's Vietnam War era combat boots had leather soles. I bet yours didn't, did they? Things change. As a member of a pipe band who has had to walk 5 miles on asphalt on the 4th of July carrying a 20 lb. drum, I consider my Dr. Martens-type ghillie brogues a Godsend. We all have opinions and we're all free to express them, but your constant deprecation of these shoes on this forum is downright insulting.
Sorry. I just had to get that off my chest.
Kenneth,
I am glad you were able to get that off of your chest. Perhaps I should have stated with greater detail of the reason(s) why I dislike the Doc Marten style ghillie brogues? Again, the central reason why I do not like them is because of the thickness of the soles and heel - simply not my cup of tea - that's it. I do not think that I was being insulting in any way (were you addessing me personally, or myself, Sandy, Scott, and Jock collectively?) and I firmly believe you are interpreting my opinion in an incorrect manner. I do not recall speaking of Doc Marten style brogues that often before, but I could be wrong.
By no means was I, or ever have, attempted to be negative, condescending, insulting, or argumentative in an unsavoury fashion on this forum, quite the opposite actually. I suppose I will never understand why some members on here seem to possess an almost continuous desire to start a passionate/heated debate over something that is often viewed as being quite superfluous...is it too difficult for peopleto simply 'agree to disagree' and let it be that?
I certainly understand why the Doc Marten style of brogues are suitable and often preferred by pipers and drummers alike, and I completely appreciate and respect that fact. To reiterate, all I was saying was that I am not fond of the styling of Doc Marten brogues, whether they are apart of my generation or not, as the latter does not matter much to me (I've always been a 'one foot in the past' kind of guy). I am more fond of simple black, brown, tan, chestnut, or burnished leather brogues (full or half) with thin, goodyear-welted leather soles, a simple heel with no steel tip and plain laces - in the style of Loake or Allen Edmonds. Of course, these are the style of shoes that many civilians choose to wear with their traditional Highland attire; i.e. - men that are not members of a pipe band or perhaps a solo-piper. To each is own, right?
I sincerely apologise if I have affronted you, or anybody else in regards to my comment of the Doc Marten style brogues, but it is indeed my opinion and my opinion alone.
P.S. - My 'jungle' and 'parachutist' boots had leather soles, but my combat (desert) boots had Vibram soles.
Cheers,
Last edited by creagdhubh; 16th March 12 at 08:15 AM.
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16th March 12, 08:13 AM
#39
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
Maybe it was the word "disgusting" that threw me off. 
It's all good.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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16th March 12, 08:18 AM
#40
Re: A Modern-Day Duke in Scabal: His Grace the Duke of Argyll
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
Maybe it was the word "disgusting" that threw me off.
It's all good.
I fear sometimes I may use rather lively words when describing something, so the fault is indeed mine in that regard! Hahaha! No worries, mate.
Kind regards,
Last edited by creagdhubh; 16th March 12 at 08:18 AM.
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