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3rd August 12, 08:43 PM
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Hi all. A picture of my great great grandfather John Peter Grant from Perthshire, Scotland. He was in the 79th Regiment of Foot from 1859 to 1869 (serving in India). While no-one in the family ever heard of him being a piper, there are pipes in this portrait and in a further portrait 10 years later. If anyone has knowledge of the ceremonial dress he is wearing, I'd love to know.
Last edited by Susieq62; 3rd August 12 at 09:10 PM.
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3rd August 12, 09:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by Susieq62
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3rd August 12, 09:39 PM
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Thanks Cygnus.. had a few issues inserting the photo, but managed it in the end!
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22nd August 12, 08:13 PM
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This is not really my vintage photo...but an interesting vinatge photo none-the-less

The child in the photo (with his father) is Wilhelm II of Germany ... later to be Emperor Wilhelm II during World War I (whilst his relatives 'King George V' of the UK and 'Czar Nicholas II' of Russia were also grand-children of Queen Victoria against Germany during WWI - the same years in which King George V formed the Windsor family to replace the German family name " "Saxe-Coburg and Gotha" )
All I can say is that History is pretty darned weird ;-)
Sometimes these odd points make me wonder what the real story was ... the story aside from the "official story" presented to the masses.
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22nd August 12, 10:42 PM
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Though George V and Czar Nicholas II were cousins, Nicholas was not descended from Victoria. It was Nicholas’ wife, Alexandra Feodorovna Romanova (née Alix of Hesse and by Rhine) who was the granddaughter of Queen Victoria. But to show you how intermarried these royal families were, Nicholas’ mother was Dagmar of Denmark whose sister Alexandra was the wife of Edward VII of the UK and whose brother George was the grandfather of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. The First World War looks like a family feud that got out of hand.
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A kilted Celt on the border.
Kentoc'h mervel eget bezañ saotret
Omne bellum sumi facile, ceterum ægerrume desinere.
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3rd September 12, 06:18 PM
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3rd September 12, 11:07 PM
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OC Richard ,
I have always been amazed by your vintage photos , absolutely first rate !
I have been reading some history on Jack Churchill from WW II , ( Mad Jack ) , and was wondering if you had any vintage pics of him .
My Best to You , Mike
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10th September 12, 10:46 AM
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 Originally Posted by Susieq62
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Hi all. A picture of my great great grandfather John Peter Grant from Perthshire, Scotland. He was in the 79th Regiment of Foot from 1859 to 1869... If anyone has knowledge of the ceremonial dress he is wearing, I'd love to know.
That's a fantastic photo there! I have a photo of my great-great-grandfather, a Civil War soldier, and I cherish it.
About his costume, it certainly isn't the uniform either of pipers or of soldiers of the 79th Foot (Cameron Highlanders). Thing about the piper's uniform of the Cameron Highlanders: it was adopted in the 1840s and never really changed. Up till the formation of The Highlanders in the 1990s the uniform was essentially the same.
Here is William Fraser, a piper of the 79th, very clearly showing the distinctive waistbelt and crossbelt hardware, sporran, etc

Your great-great-grandfather's costume stikes me as more or less typical civilian Highland costume of the period. However we must keep in mind that at that time there were a number of military pipe band uniforms which did not survive the 1881 Army reforms, such as the dress of the pipers of the 78th Foot, here seen in 1860

and the dress of the pipers of the 91st Foot, here seen in 1864. Note how similar the sporran is to your great-great-grandfather's

But all in all, I think his costume is a civilian one.
Last edited by OC Richard; 10th September 12 at 10:49 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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11th September 12, 07:59 AM
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Very interesting!
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17th September 12, 01:54 AM
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Here are 2 photos of a couple of my great grand uncles (the brothers of my great grandmother).


Can anyone identify the uniforms?
Cheers,
Michael
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