Irish Kilt?

[pugcasso]

It doesn't look pleated in the back ... I would think this should be a key defining variable in what makes a kilt...

It's *wrap* which is the family the kilt is also of.

Tons of peoples around the world had (and still have) knee-length (or a bit less or even more ... but knee-length and less implies ability to be unencumbered in mobility) wraps for men as the norm for most of human history (probably starting with some animal skin tied at the waist). I feel it is really neat walking around today wearing a clothing based on this ancient primary simple form of clothing idea .

[Joe I]

It doesn't look pleated in the back ... I would think this should be a key defining variable in what makes a kilt...

It's *wrap* which is the family the kilt is also of.

Tons of peoples around the world had (and still have) knee-length (or a bit less or even more ... but knee-length and less implies ability to be unencumbered in mobility) wraps for men as the norm for most of human history (probably starting with some animal skin tied at the waist). I feel it is really neat walking around today wearing a clothing based on this ancient primary simple form of clothing idea .

My point is Kilt like clothing being old than pants, let us all claim them!

[Friday]

It doesn't look pleated in the back ... I would think this should be a key defining variable in what makes a kilt...

It's *wrap* which is the family the kilt is also of.

I wish I could find the on-line article that said that a wrap like garment was on of the most used garments until horses became the frequent mode of transportation. I seemed that when on hose back these wrap like garments allowed to ride to be rubbed the wrong way.

[Phil]

I wish I could find the on-line article that said that a wrap like garment was on of the most used garments until horses became the frequent mode of transportation.

That sounds a very plausible argument. What more simple way could there be to keep warm than wrap some cloth or an animal skin around you. Especially if you weren't too good with a needle and thread! Following on from that, if the Irish were wearing a slightly tailored garment, sewn together and with sleeves while their Scottish cousins were still running around in a bit of (tartan?) cloth crudely wrapped around them it does give the impression of a more civilised society in Ireland at the time. "Clothes maketh the man" as the saying goes. Perhaps the reason why the Irish did not feel the need to emulate what they may have regarded as a more primitive form of dress?