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26th March 13, 10:28 AM
#1
Dale brings up a good point.
Sgian dubhs are inherently lnked with Scotland and more specifically with kilt wearing. They were not intended as weapons but tools and, therefore, Rule 11 does not apply.
Claymores (whether the broadsword variety or the hand-and-a-half variety) are inherently linked to Scotland but always were weapons...but they are also associated with kilt wearing, albiet strictly in an historical context.
Dirks, again, linked to Scotland and kilt-wearing, although largely ceremonial and seldom seen today, were weapons but still part of traditional Highland dress.
Firearms (NOT modern arms like, for example, the AR-15) are, again, historical but always intended as weapons or hunting tools. They are pretty much only appropriate within the context of historical reenactment and educational or scientific demonstrations and common sense should prevail. I highly doubt a kiltie is going to tote around his Brown Bess on a daily basis.
Archery kit falls under the same criteria as firearms for the reason that the intent during operation is the same, only the means of the projectile's propusion are varried.
Yes, hunting and sports are still daily activities for millions of people but unless it's done in a kilt then it should go under the misc. category...or on another board.
If it's in an historical context then perhaps it should be filed under the historical sections.
What about making weapons?
These are clearly DIY projects. Many of these skills are dying arts that should be preserved for posterity and for educatinal, historical, and scientific purposes. therefore, their study and recreation should be fostered and encouraged...just use common sense about it.
The Official [BREN]
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26th March 13, 11:12 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Claymores (whether the broadsword variety or the hand-and-a-half variety) are inherently linked to Scotland but always were weapons...but they are also associated with kilt wearing, albiet strictly in an historical context.
I think you could add "contemporary ceremonial functions", such as parades or weddings, to that.
"It's all the same to me, war or peace,
I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."
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26th March 13, 11:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by TheOfficialBren
Archery kit falls under the same criteria as firearms for the reason that the intent during operation is the same, only the means of the projectile's propusion are varried.
Yes, hunting and sports are still daily activities for millions of people but unless it's done in a kilt then it should go under the misc. category...or on another board.
Well... As long as "it's done in a kilt" covers a lot of stuff on this forum, we see discussion and/or photos of all kinds of everyday activities, like "going for coffee in my kilt", "getting tattooed in my kilt", "went to the pub in my kilt", "posed with pretty girls in my kilt", "went to the Sci-Fi con in my kilt" or "going ice skating in my kilt" etc. posted here and generally well enough accepted by the membership.
I daresay that "target practice with my bow and arrow in my kilt" would likely pass with about the same level of fanfare. But if the post was "target practice at the pistol range in my kilt", some folks would pitch a fit about guns. Dress it up however you like, but that's what 'rule 11' is all about, guns. And not so much about firearms themselves, but preventing the endless bandwidth wasting debate that always ensues.
Firearms are on my little mental list of 5 or 6 things I might be seen around "in my kilt" in but avoid posting anything about here, not all of them are proscribed by the rules, mostly I just don't want to have to deal with the possible debates.
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
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26th March 13, 11:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by Zardoz
Dress it up however you like, but that's what 'rule 11' is all about, guns. And not so much about firearms themselves, but preventing the endless bandwidth wasting debate that always ensues.
Firearms are on my little mental list of 5 or 6 things I might be seen around "in my kilt" in but avoid posting anything about here, not all of them are proscribed by the rules, mostly I just don't want to have to deal with the possible debates.
Pretty much how I look at it.
"It's all the same to me, war or peace,
I'm killed in the war or hung during peace."
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26th March 13, 11:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Tobus, you're right as far as you go, and that is that if somebody does complain, the moderators may still choose to say, "No, this is not really and truly a violation." More than that, it's by a voting process in which each moderator has a say. In this way, should a complainant pass something on, the moderators' role is to decide whether the compaint is justified.
True, but if there's no violation then it's no-harm, no-foul. What I'm talking about, though, is when there are two separate threads, both of which are technically violations of Rule 11. One gets reported, one doesn't. And so one goes "poof" and the other is allowed to stay.
 Originally Posted by Chas
Let us not forget that the moderators are also members. They do not hang in a wardrobe like and old raincoat and only brought out when needed. If they see something that they believe is offensive or an infringement of the rules, of course, they bring it to the other mods attention.
Do they? I was under the impression from Steve's posts that the moderators are only allowed to take action if a member reports it. The way I read his description, it is the membership that determines what gets reviewed (via the report feature), and only then do the mods get to take action. This was specifically done to avoid any allegation of moderator partiality. Maybe Steve can clear it up for us.
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