Outlander Wardrobe and language

[jhockin]

For those who are wearing a feileadh mor or "belted plaid/great kilt" I would expect that. I used to wear one fairly often, as in my pic below (from the photo shoot for a book on Highland swordsmanship), and the belt that holds the wrap together and keeps it from falling off rides at the same place as your jeans belt. It's not obvious if you're wearing a waistcoat & jacket as in the photo, because the waistcoat covers it. However, in the series you often (generally when engaged in menial chores or other highly informal circumstances) see Jamie and others "in their underwear" as it was regarded at the time, with only their shirt on the upper body, and that's where the low rise of the wrap becomes apparent.

Is/was that because a personal choice; because you bought one made that way; or based upon some historical evidence?
The ones I made for myself, with a drawstring, are designed to be worn/ belted at the natural waist, so I'm curious as what is " historically correct".

[Dale Seago]

Is/was that because a personal choice; because you bought one made that way; or based upon some historical evidence?
The ones I made for myself, with a drawstring, are designed to be worn/ belted at the natural waist, so I'm curious as what is " historically correct".

"Jeans waist" seems more "natural" to me, but that admittedly could be the influence of contemporary culture.

At this point I doubt that it could be determined which is historically correct without either a good written description or pictures; and I suspect that men in their underwear would not have been considered fitting subjects for portraiture.

[Dale Seago]

Hmmm. . .where is that portrait we've seen of what appears to be a drawstring with a belted plaid, and how high does the string appear to be?

[SeumasA]

I just ran across this thread and it has made for some very interesting reading. Terry, thank you for adding to the discussion.

[figheadair]

Hmmm. . .where is that portrait we've seen of what appears to be a drawstring with a belted plaid, and how high does the string appear to be?

See Fig 6 in this paper. It looks to be at the natural waist which is where I'd expect it to be from a practical perspective.

[Dale Seago]

Oh wowsers, I am so tickled! I was just on Facebook looking at photos from the upcoming Episode 7, and lo and behold there's a tartan of MY clan, specifically the Weathered Douglas sett. Look at the far right of the photo:




And compare with the kilt I'm wearing here:





It feels almost like a guest appearance on the show.

[Richrail]

The one wool kilt I currently have is Douglas weathered.

[rlloyd]

As a proud member of Clan Douglas, I had not seen the Weathered version in person until this year at Grandfather...and it was immediately bumped to the top of the list for my next wool purchase, whenever that may be. If only it were offered in P/V along with our Modern and Ancient palette...

[figheadair]

Oh wowsers, I am so tickled! I was just on Facebook looking at photos from the upcoming Episode 7, and lo and behold there's a tartan of MY clan, specifically the Weathered Douglas sett.

I understand how a weathered tartan might have been used as a prop but that really is an anachronism. The Douglas tartan started life as one of Wilsons' numbered patterns, in this case No 148, that dates from the early 1800s. Weathered tartans are a mid-29th century fashion.

[Tobus]

Weathered tartans are a mid-29th century fashion.

Futuristic tartans, they are!