Wrapping the Braveheart kilt

[IsaacW]

As for the portrait of William Cunning, Piper to Lord Grant, 1715, yes it's a portrait and could be factually incorrect, but it shows the material to be apparently doubled in two areas as shown below-

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Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, but isn't that "doubling" simply the upper half of the plaid, drooping down over the belt before being pulled up to the shoulder??

[Calgacus]

Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, but isn't that "doubling" simply the upper half of the plaid, drooping down over the belt before being pulled up to the shoulder??

No, if you look very closely, you can see two parallel edges of the cloth depicted. This indicates a fold of cloth that is two layers thick.

*Edit* Here's the image highlighted in a different way. I have highlighted all the edges in the cloth in BLUE for the outer layer of cloth, and RED for the under layer of cloth.

Grant piper big edges.jpg

You'll have to click on the image to enlarge it and see the highlights. Anything not highlighted is folds, not actual edges of the cloth.

[IsaacW]

No, if you look very closely, you can see two parallel edges of the cloth depicted. This indicates a fold of cloth that is two layers thick.

Okay, I see what you are saying!

[Calgacus]

An image with the two layers shaded. BLUE is the outer layer, RED is the under layer.

Grant piper big panels.jpg

[figheadair]

I understand the argument but am not convinced. The same visual 'effect' can be achieved simply by folding one side of the upper portion back towards the opposite shoulder: the cloth is then effectively doubled on the fastening side but single if undone and worn as a cloak.





i understand the argument but the same

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[Calgacus]

I understand the argument but am not convinced. The same visual 'effect' can be achieved simply by folding one side of the upper portion back towards the opposite shoulder: the cloth is then effectively doubled on the fastening side but single if undone and worn as a cloak.

I see what you are saying and can visualise it. I can understand how that could account for the arrangement at the figure's left shoulder (right of image), but I do not see how it can account for the fold at the figure's right hip (left of image).

[figheadair]

I see what you are saying and can visualise it. I can understand how that could account for the arrangement at the figure's left shoulder (right of image), but I do not see how it can account for the fold at the figure's right hip (left of image).

The arranging of the upper portion of the plaid can result in that effect as here and for me this is a reasonable explanation for the fold in Waitt's portrait.

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[Pleater]

The fellows have (as usual) grabbed the ball and run with it - the Braveheart costume is not a great kilt, it is a small kilt with what is usually the under apron extended and worn uppermost. the long end is thrown back over the shoulder.

It wasn't authentic for Braveheart, not is it right for the Scottish play, because it isn't anything which was ever worn as clothing in the real world, but it should not be difficult to make as costume.

Anne the Pleater :ootd: