This hat needs Jock'd.

**Pleater** · 26th November 14, 06:59 AM

Is this more the look you're after?

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**MacKenzie** · 26th November 14, 07:45 AM

Not that much.... err... droop(?) Anne. Not for this lid. However, The Redhead is going to be making me a bonnet much like that.

I want this hat to maintain some shape, but right now it's still too poofy. Actually, the TOS on the lad in the front row, far right in the pic that Bruce posted (that appears to be the platoon/squad leader?) looks just right... to me.

**jock gray** · 29th November 14, 05:03 PM

probably find that the one with the sporran is a piper......ORs wore a plain sporran if at all....pipers wore horse hair.
you will see the section sergeant on the back row left.

**jock gray** · 29th November 14, 05:15 PM

just enlarged photo....looks like a sergeants mess photo, all are ncos .....with the exception of the soldier with the crown on his sleeve a warrant officer !!!.
the one sporting the sporran would be a pipe major possibly.......I must admit the TAM O SHANTERS that they have on are typical of the period...dinner plates compared to the modern Issued ones.

**Bruce Scott** · 30th November 14, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by jock gray

just enlarged photo....looks like a sergeants mess photo, all are ncos .....with the exception of the soldier with the crown on his sleeve a warrant officer !!!.
the one sporting the sporran would be a pipe major possibly.......I must admit the TAM O SHANTERS that they have on are typical of the period...dinner plates compared to the modern Issued ones.

Aren't the four inverted chevrons on the lower sleeve the insignia of either a Pipe or Drum Major? The fellow in the photo also has something above the stripes on his right sleeve which could be either a drum or bagpipes (far too indistinct for my eyes).

Some also have wound stripes on the lower left sleeve.
http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Wound-Stripe.html

**jock gray** · 30th November 14, 04:29 AM

Yes you are correct. ....I couldn't make it out. ....my old pipe major was Queens own Highlanders and that was similar in design.
For the record. ..no can't play the pipes. ..It was in my youth.

**Pleater** · 8th December 14, 06:26 AM

This is my latest crochet round cap - it is a bit big so I might offer it for sale - Steve is allowing me to use the hobbyists section -there is the Pigsey look from the series 'Monkey', but it can be worn tilted to one side or back, as required.