Coat of Arms

[Tarheel]

The link I offer is one of many that will lead you to fill your quest.
https://www.houseofnames.com/

I stand by Mr. Ashton's comment. My link was to lead you to a family crest (not to a particular coat of arms). I wasn't being as specific as see your question was. Please forgive my oversight.

[Steve Ashton]

Is your family from Scotland?

If so perhaps you may be interested in what the Court of the Lord Lyon has to say about coats of arms.

The Lord Lyon is the sole King of Arms in Scotland. He is Head of the Heraldic Executive and the Judge of the Court of the Lord Lyon which has jurisdiction over all heraldic business in Scotland.

http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/216.181.html


"There is a widespread misconception that a family or a clan can have a family or clan Coat of Arms. Many heraldic and clan web sites and other media suggest that a person has the right to use the family or clan Arms. This is completely incorrect.

A Coat of Arms belongs only to one individual person and can only be used by that person and no one else. In order for a person to be able to use a Coat of Arms it is necessary for that individual person to apply for a personal Coat of Arms to be granted to him or her ."

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Steve Ashton

Yes, my family came from Scotland. I do not know if they were big of a clan to have a family crest. I am
also part of the Montgomery line also since my great grandmother was a Montgomery. I was also told
that the Thomas did not have a coat of arms because they were a small group and they were a sept to
the Montgomery.

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[Steve Ashton]

What I was trying to say boats is that there is no such thing as a family coat of arms under the Scottish system.

Arms are granted to, and the exclusive property of, one individual person.

What you may wear or display is the crest of Clan MacThomas. Here is one link. http://www.clanmacthomas.org/

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In that case, is there a such a thing as a family crest for the Thomas line? I like to know if there is one
so I can make one and hang it in the house for display. I do know that my ancestors are from Scotland
but I do know what line of ancestors they are from.

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[Dughlas mor]

boats, if your family name is Thomas, and if you know your ancestors came from Scotland, then you likely belong to Clan MacThomas, a recognized clan with it`s own tartan, etc. If you look at the shop page on the MacThomas society website, you will see a clan crest badge. Seems to be a wildcat holding (throttling?) a snake, with the motto "Deo juvante invidiam superado." (With God`s help I will rise above envy) This is what a clan member would wear as a cap badge. Of course it would look great reproduced any size you like, hanging on your wall. Hope that helps, and if you knew all that already, please excuse me.

[macwilkin]

boats, if your family name is Thomas, and if you know your ancestors came from Scotland, then you likely belong to Clan MacThomas, a recognized clan with it`s own tartan, etc. If you look at the shop page on the MacThomas society website, you will see a clan crest badge. Seems to be a wildcat holding (throttling?) a snake, with the motto "Deo juvante invidiam superado." (With God`s help I will rise above envy) This is what a clan member would wear as a cap badge. Of course it would look great reproduced any size you like, hanging on your wall. Hope that helps, and if you knew all that already, please excuse me.

One more thing to add to this post: don't forget that the best way to identify a possible link to a clan is a geographic location; ancestors who were from the traditional area associated with a particular clan. A Williamson from Fife, for example, would most likely not be a part of Clan Gunn, while a Williamson from Wick or Thurso would most likely have that necessary connection.

T.

[MacGumerait]

Steve Ashton

Yes, my family came from Scotland. I do not know if they were big of a clan to have a family crest. I am
also part of the Montgomery line also since my great grandmother was a Montgomery. I was also told
that the Thomas did not have a coat of arms because they were a small group and they were a sept to
the Montgomery.

boats

Greetings boats ,

Always good to see someone with some Montgomery lineage ( your great grandmother ) on board this ship .

The Montgomery Clan has no septs , however , there are various spellings of the surname . The good folks here are pointing you in the right direction .

If you can determine the area of Scotland your Thomas family is from , it should help you in figuring out which clan that " your " Thomas surname has possible connections .

Best of luck to you .

Cheers , Mike

[cessna152towser]

Only the recognised Chief of a Scottish Clan, or Head of Family in the case of a lowland Scottish family has the right to bear the undifferenced personal Arms of the family name.
What you can achieve is a grant from the Lord Lyon to be recognised as an Armiger when you can have your personal Arms which are generally similar to the family Arms but will be differenced in some way. To be recognised as an Armiger you need to have been born in Scotland, be of good character and to prove your Scottish paternal lineage through at least four generations.
As an example my Grant of Arms from the Lord Lyon includes the Cunningham shakefork but is differenced with a small propeller and cogwheel, suggested by the Lord Lyon as I am descended from a line of engineers, my late father having specialised in aircraft engines.
There is of course nothing to stop you wearing a clan badge on your cap or in the form of a kilt pin.

[boats]

Greetings boats ,

Always good to see someone with some Montgomery lineage ( your great grandmother ) on board this ship .

The Montgomery Clan has no septs , however , there are various spellings of the surname . The good folks here are pointing you in the right direction .

If you can determine the area of Scotland your Thomas family is from , it should help you in figuring out which clan that " your " Thomas surname has possible connections .

Best of luck to you .

Cheers , Mike

That is how I joined the clan. I also got a kilt for the clan but it is 16 oz. wool and it is toooo hot
to wear it here in the Houston, Tx. area. I am planning to wear it on the cruise next year.


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