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    Thank you for the correction and the additions.

    Something that I find interesting, although unrelated to the topic of jackets, is how some of these are tartans still exist, but there are some great examples of the idea that the family/clan tartan of today truly did not exist. I find it interesting that although the Government Sett is rather old and there is the argument that some give that it derived from Campbell tartan (I have never bought into that), all the Campbells shown above have red based tartans. The clan today does not recognize any red tartans as Campbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
    I find it interesting that although the Government Sett is rather old and there is the argument that some give that it derived from Campbell tartan (I have never bought into that), all the Campbells shown above have red based tartans. The clan today does not recognize any red tartans as Campbell.
    I agree with your sentiment regard the early use of the Government tartan by the Campbells. The fact that various recent Campbell chiefs have not recognised any of the red tartans worn by various early Campbell lairds rather goes to emphasis their lack of understanding of the historical use of tartan, and their desire to regiment something that was only ever regulated in the Army.

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    A nice detail from a Hogarth painting. I am not sure how accurate this necessarily is. Hogarth does great detail, but he also embellishes for the sake of satire and definitely wanted to show this man as a "Jacobite."

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    Peter, do you have any idea what the tartan (if it is a tartan still) that the thane of Cawdor is wearing as a plaid in this image...


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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
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    Peter, do you have any idea what the tartan (if it is a tartan still) that the thane of Cawdor is wearing as a plaid in this image...

    Not a tartan that we know today. Structurally, it's like a combination of Watson/Gordon of Esselmont and Murray etc.

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    Lord John Drummond c1745


    Lord George Murray c1745


    5th Earl of Wymess (1699-1756) c.1715


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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post

    Lord John Drummond c1745


    Lord George Murray c1745


    5th Earl of Wymess (1699-1756) c.1715


    Sir Archibald Grant of Monymusk
    Wymess and Monymusk just scream rental in their white hose. ;)

    Just kidding. Great pictures Peter!
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    An excellent collection of portraits of tartan jackets! I'm familiar with most of them, but a few were new to me. Thanks for posting them!

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    Well, here is what I came up with...
    http://frenchinwisconsin.com/2015/08...ttish-history/
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