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    I could be mistaken (and probably am), but I believe the strap tucked under represents one of the heraldic orders (see Order of the Garter for example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleJCS View Post
    I could be mistaken (and probably am), but I believe the strap tucked under represents one of the heraldic orders (see Order of the Garter for example).
    That's pretty much it, I think. Clan badge manufactures used to make their badges with the "tucked" strap. These days, after certain heraldic concerns were raised, the strap is "un-tucked" and just hangs over the main of the strap. There must be many thousands ----tens of thousands probably----- of Clan badges still around with the "tucked" straps. I would not loose too much sleep over it if it were me.
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    None lost - just noticing the difference. Thanks for everyone's input!
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    It is my understanding that all this crest badge business has little antiquity relative to the antiquity of the clans of Scotland. Just when it became the custom for clansmen to wear their chief's crest is uncertain but it probably developed about the time of the great tartan revival, the late 18th c., and was probably influenced by Sir Walter Scott and other romantic writers of the era. While it is now the custom to wear the chief's crest, encircled in a buckle and strap, in the days prior to 1746 the clan plant badge was worn to signify the allegiance to the clan of the wearer. It has been difficult, for me at least, to find any contemporary representations of the clan crest badge in use prior to the 19th c. The original question, of course, was what was the significance of the way the strap was tucked in? If my theory as stated above is correct then it is doubtful there was any significance at all, at least no ancient significance. A lot of things which we take for granted today like the crest badge, the chief wearing his eagle feathers and clan tartan, have no true basis in antiquity. I am probably completely wrong on this and am sure someone here will tell if I am but for now I am sticking with it.
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