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14th August 25, 10:31 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by jsrnephdoc
May I ask where your wife acquired that purse?
As for the level of formality, I think that diced or tartan hose are likely better suited for white tie (I’m certain some of the Scots — who have been kindly biting their tongues thus far — can enlighten us!).
As for the purse:
Contact Carol MacDonald Lucas
cedesigns@cembdesigns.com
Cheers,
SM
Shaun Maxwell
Vice President & Texas Commissioner
Clan Maxwell Society
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14th August 25, 10:57 AM
#2
The curious unbrreakable rule of "white tie"
 Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell
As for the level of formality, I think that diced or tartan hose are likely better suited for white tie (I’m certain some of the Scots — who have been kindly biting their tongues thus far — can enlighten us!).
As for the purse:
Contact Carol MacDonald Lucas
cedesigns@cembdesigns.com
Sadly, that domain is no more…
I don't know where to BEGIN looking for tartan purses. ChatGPT, perhaps…
And, as for "white tie" being an absolute that demands obedience, I've never understood it (perhaps because I've never been invited to such an event). Seemingly it's perfectly fine for a Scotsman's semiformal attire to include EVERY primary color, and with marled yarns, perhaps almost every gradation in the rainbow, but that little horizontal sliver of white below the chin is INVIOLATE!
And of course, that's true NOT just when British Royalty are entertaining at Balmoral, but even where fashion rules are flaunted; e.g., the Academy Awards "Red Carpet" where an actress may be exalted for wearing a dress costing "A Price Above Rubies" (even though the dress covers fewer of her assets than the rubies accenting them), but her XY escort's white tie must be entirely conventional.
OK, perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but I hope you get my drift…
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14th August 25, 01:53 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by jsrnephdoc
Sadly, that domain is no more…
I don't know where to BEGIN looking for tartan purses. ChatGPT, perhaps…
I went out and dug around in my "convening box" and found some literature. No sure how long I've had it, so it may be obsolete, but worth a shot.
Try contacting:
Carol MacDonald Lucas
4500 Williams Drive, Ste. 212-406
Georgetown, Texas 78633
Cell: (512) 966-8288
If that doesn't work out, simply Google "clan badge purse," and you'll likely be surprised at the number of options available.
Cheers,
SM
Shaun Maxwell
Vice President & Texas Commissioner
Clan Maxwell Society
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14th August 25, 04:02 PM
#4
About tartan/diced/patterned hose, prior to around the mid-19th century they were universally worn in Highland Dress. (Is there an older image of somebody in plain hose? I don't remember seeing one.)
When tweed became popular with gentlemen for outdoor pursuits (shooting, fishing) it was adapted to Highland Dress and plain hose in tweedy colours like taupe, grey, and brown began to be worn with that dress. It was the beginning of what became day dress/field dress/morning dress in modern traditional Highland dress.
But in Evening Dress patterned hose (and buckled shoes) were universal until the rise of Kilt Hire in the 1970s and 1980s.
Traditionally-minded people like me still wear patterned hose and buckled shoes in Evening Dress (which I rarely get a chance to wear nowadays).
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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