A new House of Edgar collection

[jsrnephdoc]

I've seen plenty of kilts worn at weddings in Texas, though generally by the wedding party rather than the guests.

As for the diced hose, while you CAN find them on eBay, you'll pay less here:

https://www.jhiggins.net/hose-diced-...ose-hand-knit/


I have a couple of pair, but find that they rarely get worn, apart from the odd Burns Supper (and honestly, they're really too dressy for that!)

Cheers,

SM

Thanks for the pic of you and (I assume your spouse, given that even her lovely PURSE is in your chosen tartan), I assume at that Burns Supper.

As for being "too formal," my guess is that would apply more often to an American tourist visiting a pub in Glasgow wearing a PC, white tie, and fly plaid while the other ale guzzlers were swilling local ales and single malts clad in T-shirts bearing subtly or explicitly obscene logos and sandals. Here in the US, perhaps EXCEPT for Celtic Games or the Burns Night, no one would EVER suspect that you're overdressed when kilted, unless you were WHITE tie full formal.

May I ask where your wife acquired that purse?

[ShaunMaxwell]

May I ask where your wife acquired that purse?

As for the level of formality, I think that diced or tartan hose are likely better suited for white tie (I’m certain some of the Scots — who have been kindly biting their tongues thus far — can enlighten us!).

As for the purse:

Contact Carol MacDonald Lucas
cedesigns@cembdesigns.com

Cheers,

SM

[jsrnephdoc]

As for the level of formality, I think that diced or tartan hose are likely better suited for white tie (I’m certain some of the Scots — who have been kindly biting their tongues thus far — can enlighten us!).

As for the purse:

Contact Carol MacDonald Lucas
cedesigns@cembdesigns.com

Sadly, that domain is no more…

I don't know where to BEGIN looking for tartan purses. ChatGPT, perhaps…

And, as for "white tie" being an absolute that demands obedience, I've never understood it (perhaps because I've never been invited to such an event). Seemingly it's perfectly fine for a Scotsman's semiformal attire to include EVERY primary color, and with marled yarns, perhaps almost every gradation in the rainbow, but that little horizontal sliver of white below the chin is INVIOLATE!

And of course, that's true NOT just when British Royalty are entertaining at Balmoral, but even where fashion rules are flaunted; e.g., the Academy Awards "Red Carpet" where an actress may be exalted for wearing a dress costing "A Price Above Rubies" (even though the dress covers fewer of her assets than the rubies accenting them), but her XY escort's white tie must be entirely conventional.

OK, perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but I hope you get my drift…

[ShaunMaxwell]

Sadly, that domain is no more…

I don't know where to BEGIN looking for tartan purses. ChatGPT, perhaps…

I went out and dug around in my "convening box" and found some literature. No sure how long I've had it, so it may be obsolete, but worth a shot.

Try contacting:

Carol MacDonald Lucas
4500 Williams Drive, Ste. 212-406
Georgetown, Texas 78633
Cell: (512) 966-8288

If that doesn't work out, simply Google "clan badge purse," and you'll likely be surprised at the number of options available.

Cheers,

SM

[OC Richard]

About tartan/diced/patterned hose, prior to around the mid-19th century they were universally worn in Highland Dress. (Is there an older image of somebody in plain hose? I don't remember seeing one.)

When tweed became popular with gentlemen for outdoor pursuits (shooting, fishing) it was adapted to Highland Dress and plain hose in tweedy colours like taupe, grey, and brown began to be worn with that dress. It was the beginning of what became day dress/field dress/morning dress in modern traditional Highland dress.

But in Evening Dress patterned hose (and buckled shoes) were universal until the rise of Kilt Hire in the 1970s and 1980s.

Traditionally-minded people like me still wear patterned hose and buckled shoes in Evening Dress (which I rarely get a chance to wear nowadays).

[OC Richard]

As for being "too formal," my guess is that would apply more often to an American tourist visiting a pub in Glasgow wearing a PC...

Several years ago I was piping for a Burns Supper here in California.

There were only two kilted gents- the guy who had been hosting that particular event for many years, and me the hired piper. People were informally dressed, the host too, just in shirtsleeves though kilted.

Partway through the evening a gent walks in wearing full evening dress with Prince Charlie etc.

Later I chatted with him. He was a Scottish guy visiting from Scotland on business, and had packed his kilt outfit due to Burns' birthday falling during his trip.

A couple days later was our local Highland Games and sure enough there was that Scottish guy walking around in his Prince Charlie, THE only person so dressed amongst the hundreds of kilties on the field that day.

I think of this whenever Scots get shirty about Americans overdressing.

[SF Jeff]

They can be had, but they're very dear!

https://tartansocks.simdif.com/range-of-hose.html

Cheers,

SM

Thanks for the link. Looks like a one-off pair, hence the high price. There is also a pic of some nice examples of the Gairloch pattern that trog mentioned:

https://tartansocks.simdif.com/image...604c59e27e.jpg

And even more interesting to me are the bespoke hose for the OCSD. I've seen that band perform a few times and don't remember them wearing those hose. But a few years back they changed their tartan so maybe they changed their hose too.

https://tartansocks.simdif.com/image...607d43e8d3.jpg

[jsrnephdoc]

The video done by House of Edgar spends a bit of time talking about the "herringbone selvedge" apparently typical of the times when these six tartans were being woven. Barb Tewksbury sent me a picture of a tartan with herringbone selvedge. One reason it was attractive was that the selvedge "stripe" border coincided EXACTLY with the transition from one stripe to another in the fabric. I know little enough about looms and weaving so as to have no clue whether that's always the way it would be.

Can anyone enlighten me on this?

Thanks so much!

[Jock Scot]

Several years ago I was piping for a Burns Supper here in California.

There were only two kilted gents- the guy who had been hosting that particular event for many years, and me the hired piper. People were informally dressed, the host too, just in shirtsleeves though kilted.

Partway through the evening a gent walks in wearing full evening dress with Prince Charlie etc.

Later I chatted with him. He was a Scottish guy visiting from Scotland on business, and had packed his kilt outfit due to Burns' birthday falling during his trip.

A couple days later was our local Highland Games and sure enough there was that Scottish guy walking around in his Prince Charlie, THE only person so dressed amongst the hundreds of kilties on the field that day.

I think of this whenever Scots get shirty about Americans overdressing.

Just because one is a natural born Scot, even from the Highlands, there is absolutely no guarantee that they have any idea, or, interest about how to wear the kilt!

[figheadair]

The video done by House of Edgar spends a bit of time talking about the "herringbone selvedge" apparently typical of the times when these six tartans were being woven. Barb Tewksbury sent me a picture of a tartan with herringbone selvedge. One reason it was attractive was that the selvedge "stripe" border coincided EXACTLY with the transition from one stripe to another in the fabric. I know little enough about looms and weaving so as to have no clue whether that's always the way it would be.

Can anyone enlighten me on this?

Thanks so much!

You may find these two papers of help:

- http://www.scottishtartans.co.uk/Tra...e_patterns.pdf

- http://www.scottishtartans.co.uk/Joined_Plaids.pdf