X-marks tartan

**cloves** · 1st February 07, 02:44 PM

I'm game this time around as well. My first "real" kilt might as well be x-marks tartan. 4meters for me too please.

**ccga3359** · 1st February 07, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by cloves

I'm game this time around as well. My first "real" kilted skirt (skilt) might as well be x-marks tartan. 4meters for me too please.

Please note above edit. We'd be wise to stay the course!

**cloves** · 1st February 07, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by ccga3359

Please note above edit. We'd be wise to stay the course!

*rolls eyes* whatever......

How about this....my first tartan, wool, unbifurcated garment.
That better?

**The Wizard of BC** · 1st February 07, 05:04 PM

I just got off the phone with Gordon.

Here are the prices he quoted me.

X Marks Tartan - with the Sett adjusted to move the white line off the Selvdge.

14oz./lin. meter
Less than 55 meters = $57.00cdn/meter = $40.00usd
more than 55 meters = $27.00cdn/meter = $40.00usd

16oz./lin.meter
Less than 50 meters = $62.00cdn/meter = $44.00usd
More than 50 meters = $52.00cdn/meter = $53.00usd

Please remember that if I end up handling the money, orders, cutting, boxing and shipping, I will need to add a 10% fee for my labor.

To get the lower price we will need at least 12 people to pay before I will give Gordon the go-ahead.

note - If this run happens I will be ordering a little extra (2-3 kilts worth) to keep in my shop for people who can't order right now/join after the run. That will be out of my pocket and is not part of the 12 orders we will need.

**ccga3359** · 1st February 07, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC

I just got off the phone with Gordon.

Here are the prices he quoted me.

X Marks Tartan - with the Sett adjusted to move the white line off the Selvdge.

14oz./lin. meter
Less than 55 meters = $57.00cdn/meter = $40.00usd
more than 55 meters = $27.00cdn/meter = $40.00usd

16oz./lin.meter
Less than 50 meters = $62.00cdn/meter = $44.00usd
More than 50 meters = $52.00cdn/meter = $53.00usd

Steve, I don't think this figure is correct.

**Retro Red** · 1st February 07, 05:27 PM

Based on the USD value, I'd say Steve meant to say the cost for the 14-oz is the same whether he orders less than 55 meters or more than 55 meters from F&K, namely $47CDN/$40USD. Looks like just a typo...

Also, it looks like the USD amounts got flip-flopped on the 16-oz. I believe it should read,
Less than 50 meters = $62.00cdn/meter = $53.00usd
More than 50 meters = $52.00cdn/meter = $44.00usd

Living in the desert, I would prefer the 14-oz, but I'm in for either weight. Just let me know who to pay & how much!
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**MacWage** · 1st February 07, 05:47 PM

OHHHH YYYEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!!!
16! 16! 16! 16! 16! 16! 16! 16!

(The earlier run was 14, so some us WILL be in for a 16 that would not be for a 14.)
If 16, I WILL buy 2 meters! (Maybe 4)
(My wife will kill me either way, but she'll STILL get the bill!)

Also, note, there is not THAT much difference between 2 oz, but it WILL make the kilt hold a pleat better (esp. with F & K fabric).
For some reason, F&K feels lighter than it really is. One kiltmaker even WEIGHTED it to make sure it really WAS 14 oz, because it "feels" like a lighter weight.
16 is also IDEAL weight for a 4 yard box pleat!!

(I see a poll between 14 and 16 coming, but ONLY by those getting fabric!)

**Warlock** · 1st February 07, 11:00 PM

I might be able to get the wife to turn loose of enough for PV. I would prefer wool as well, but just can't swing that much cash. Not unless I can start selling some of my Masonic items.

**sjrapid** · 2nd February 07, 04:49 AM

I'm in if it's 16-oz wool.

I'm not clear on this single/double width business, but I know I need 9 yards to make a knife-pleated tank to fit me.

If I order 9 yards of double-width, I assume that this would mean that I could cut it into three kilt lengths, one of 9 yards and two of 4.5 yards?

Or is there some splice and dice arrangment going on here where if two people each order 4 yards of double width, they get it delivered as 8 yards of single width each?

Best regards

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 2nd February 07, 05:34 AM

I've had the pleasure of working with F&K cloth in both 14 oz weight and in 18 oz weight. I have to say I've never worked with their 16 oz weight. But I can say, from that experience, that their 18 oz weight is far superior to their 14 oz. I have to admit I had some trouble working with the 14 oz, and for some reason it was a dickens to get a pleat to stay pressed in the X Marks kilts I've made. I don't know if this is characteristic of all their 14 oz cloth, or just that particular run.

However, I've made a few kilts from their 18 oz cloth (MacKenzie tartan) and it is just a joy to work with. Really soft, great hand, and really pleats up well.

So, while I have no direct experience with their 16 oz cloth, I'm assuming it will behave better than the 14 oz. And hey, 18 oz would be great!

I'm not ordering cloth, so I don't really have a say in what you guys decide to do. But I figured as someone who may potentially be making kilts from whatever cloth ya'll order, I'd voice my opinion. Heavier the better!

(Oh, and to answer another question, the $65 per yard heavy kilt weight wool I mentioned at the beginning of the thread is available for any individual to order at any time, as the minimum is only 4 yards. This is really great quality kilting cloth, woven in Scotland. Yes, it's more expensive, but you also don't have to put in a group order. So for those of you who want the cloth without having to wait or depend on others, it's always there as an option).

M