Are kilts gothic (or anti-gothic)

[Richland]

Websters: GOTH
: a member of a Germanic people that overran the Roman Empire in the early centuries of the Christian era.

Gonna go out on a limb. how doese Goth in the modern era fit in?
What is their kilt Connection.
I'm just not up on the fads of the young, I see what you describe sittin around in Harvard Sq. and understand that they are called Goths but Why?

[corbinj]

I gotta chime in here, I am an old school punk (yep from the seventies and early eighties). I know I don't look that old, but I am. Must be all the clean living.(Tatoo Bradley ain't the only straight edge around) I get mistaken for a goth alot. I never knew there was a "culture" to the movement, I just thought they were pissed off kids like the rest of us. Someone fill me in. Just for fun is Johnny Cash a goth? I could really see him in a black workmans uk, with those black silver tip boots. I have been wearing black clothing as long as I can remember, black kilts included. I don't thing they are "goth" or "anti-goth" People wear titles, clothes care not. kilt on!

[macwilkin]

I thought I had read on Matt Newsome's blog that solid black kilts had been adopted as a dress/symbol for the people of Cornwall.

If I remember correctly, some Cornish were using a solid back kilt, but now there a number of Cornish tartans:

http://www.cornish-tartans.co.uk/

Notice the St. Piran's Cross, a white cross on a black field, is prominent -- St. Piran is the patron saint of Cornwall and tin miners.

Cheers,
Todd

[Dreadbelly]

I don't know what I am. I've had a punk phase... Other phases.

I believe I defy catagorisation.

You could call me a savage barbarian I think and I'd be ok with that.

[Nick]

Perhaps the most fitting category I've every been placed in is "Renaissance Man," if that can even be a category. I'm interested in so many things, and do so many things, even though I have my specialties and am more interested in some things than others, that I guess I'm hard to tack down.

[Richland]

Thomas Jefferson was a Rennaissance Man!
Good company to be in!

[Erisianmonkey]

Websters: GOTH
: a member of a Germanic people that overran the Roman Empire in the early centuries of the Christian era.

Gonna go out on a limb. how doese Goth in the modern era fit in?
What is their kilt Connection.
I'm just not up on the fads of the young, I see what you describe sittin around in Harvard Sq. and understand that they are called Goths but Why?

Webster's is absoluteanymore. Check the OED. I posted a definition from them earlier in the thread.

[Robinhood]

This topic grows more interesting. It seems that
aside from those of us on this forum who entertain
the style, there is very little knowledge of "goth."
This doesn't surprise me. The reason for my curiosity
is that the goths around here are intensely private.
This may be the only group I haven't been accepted
into since I graduated from high school. I don't find
any distress in this, but it does make me want to
understand what makes them tick.

I kind of expected that my wearing a kilt may put them
more at ease in my presence, but the rest of my
appearance probably throws up red flags before them.
(Unless as I originally postulated that kilts may be
anti-goth. Since this idea seems incorrect, I suppose
they see me as some goofy character in left field.)
They really are a puzzle to me.

[Panache]

Goth and Punk

I would not catagorize myself as ever being in either group. Those individuals that I have met were have always been pleasant folks, distinctively dressed no doubt, but nice open folks.

My perceptions, and please note that these are my views and my views alone, about these movements / fashion are below. If anyone has a problem with them or takes offense please send me a pm and I will remove.

Punk is about being exposed
Goth is about concealment

Punk music lyrics are very literal, right to the point
Goth music lyrics are cryptic with lots of obscure references

Punks want to be in the light
Goths long for the Shadows

The Punk emotional vibe is anger.
The Goth emotional vibe is sorrow.

Punks want the cold truth
Goths want the romantic ideal

Punks have a unisex look that leans to the masculine
Goths have a unisex look that leans to the feminine

Punk is grounded in reality, it is a reaction to the here and now
Goth is fantasy, an escape from the here and now

Punk's goal is to inspire outrage
Goth's goal is to inspire dread

Cheers

[Dreadbelly]

Hmm, must be working, I've been inspired by a few Goths.