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31st March 07, 11:40 AM
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I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
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31st March 07, 11:53 AM
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I have one line that goes back to the 1600's.
[B]Paul Murray[/B]
Kilted in Detroit! Now that's tough.... LOL
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31st March 07, 01:45 PM
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Dirka & I have such a mixed up and confusing family history we count ourselves lucky to know a little as we do.
 Originally Posted by brandycr
........Can you see me as Queen?
Sure Why not Just tax & judge fairly.
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31st March 07, 02:00 PM
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 Originally Posted by brandycr
I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
Suddenly I'm envisioning the rebirth of serfdom...
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31st March 07, 02:22 PM
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 Originally Posted by brandycr
I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
Virtually everyone of European descent is descended from royalty. We have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 greatgrandparents, etc. Continuing this, if we go to, say 1215, the time of the signing of the Magna Carta, we have billions of ancestors of that generation, more than there were people on earth, let alone Europe and especially the British Isles. If we continue to Charlemagne, 800 AD, the number is in the trillions. So, every European who lived then who has living descendants is the ancestor of each of us. As the say, we are also descended from Charlemagne's stableboy, but he being poor, left no records, which are the documents of the transfer of wealth, by marriage, descent, enfeoffment, etc.
If you do enough genealogical research, you will invariably find that you have ancestors among the gentry. These descend from the aristocracy, who in turn descend from royalty. This is especially true in the British Isles, a more closed gene pool.
I don't know how many royal descents I have, but they include in England, Edward III, Edward I and John; too many Welsh kings and princes to list including Llewellyn the Great, the last prince of Wales, too many Scots kings to list, Charlemagne, St Louis of France, etc. I do not take pride in this, and am not at all special or unique. These historical figures have millions of descendants. For those of us who do genealogical research, royal and aristocratic ancestry is helpful since it has usually already been throroughly researched, we don't have to worry about it, and can spend our time on a much more exciting area: original research that no one has yet explored, a much greater source of pride to me than my ancestry.
Last edited by gilmore; 31st March 07 at 02:33 PM.
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31st March 07, 07:20 PM
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 Originally Posted by brandycr
I have one line of mine back to 515 in the Holy Land.Have Queen Mary of Scots in my line and tons of royals got lucky because tapped into royal records and they keep close tabs on bloodlines.Lol now if 143 (think thats the right #)people would die Id be queen lol .Can you see me as Queen?
Queen of what? Are you Maria Vladimirovna of Russia?
Click here for a list of all 4,804 of those in succession to the throne of the United Kingdom, as of January 1, 2001 http://www.wargs.com/essays/succession/2001.html
Last edited by gilmore; 31st March 07 at 07:29 PM.
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1st April 07, 07:27 AM
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I am fortunate in that we were able to trace our family branch of the Mackay Clan back to Alexander Macdonald, Lord of the Isles; via a direct link to Angus Dubh Mackay in the early 1400's. I guess that makes me a Macdonald as much as a Mackay 
Also, if you take a little leap of faith you can then claim that Angus Mackay was a descendant of the original Mackay Chief - One step further and you can apply the most popular and accepted theory as to the origins of the chieftenship of the Clan Mackay, is that the chief was descended from the Pictish Royal House of MacEth.
So - I trump ya all - I am descended from the original Pictish Royal Line as well as the Lord of the Isles 
Brian
Citation for Angus Dubh Mackay's relation to Ian Macdonald, Lord of the Isles:
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Angus 'Dubh' Mackay of Strathnaver1 (M)
#108073 Last Edited 14 May 2005
Angus 'Dubh' Mackay of Strathnaver married Elizabeth MacDonald, daughter of Iain Macdonald, Lord of the Isles and Margaret Stewart, before 8 October 1415.1
Citations
1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 449. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
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1st April 07, 10:30 AM
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 Originally Posted by brandycr
Can you see me as Queen?
Just give me a kilt or two, and then sure, why not?
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1st April 07, 10:45 AM
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My favorite part of genealogy is the stories of ancestors...survial, crossing the Atlantic in ancient vessels, moving west by wagon train. Seems my ancestors were always on, or near, the frontier of their times.
My favorite ancestor was a guy who had a farm in upstate New York during the war of 1812. When the British came marching down the road past his farm house he grabbed his musket, went out on the front porch, and ripped off a round into the then passing platoon of Redcoats.
That Redcoat platoon then turned and ripped off everything they had into him. Instantly rendered him into "Swiss cheese" and ended his life on Earth. Fortunately he'd left some children.
Don't know that humans change much...most of my other ancestors, and I, often display the same "not well thought out" behavior.
Good thing there are no kilt stores near me...I'd walk in and shout..."I want one of everything!"
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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1st April 07, 11:18 AM
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 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
My favorite ancestor was a guy who had a farm in upstate New York during the war of 1812. When the British came marching down the road past his farm house he grabbed his musket, went out on the front porch, and ripped off a round into the then passing platoon of Redcoats.
That Redcoat platoon then turned and ripped off everything they had into him. Instantly rendered him into "Swiss cheese" and ended his life on Earth. Fortunately he'd left some children.
Don't know that humans change much...most of my other ancestors, and I, often display the same "not well thought out" behavior.
Good thing there are no kilt stores near me...I'd walk in and shout..."I want one of everything!"
Ron
I love those kind of stories Ron! I don't know whether to life or what! Hot-headness runs rampant in my family lineage as well.
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Good thing there are no kilt stores near me...I'd walk in and shout..."I want one of everything!"
Ron
You, I, and a good chunk of the rest of the rabble!
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