Being a veteran of the Naval Air Service, I have to chime in here. For an aviator, military type one each, Steve is well civilized.

A six month cruise after a six week work up on the carrier of your choice, preferably working in the hangar bay or flight deck, should illuminate my point for those not seeing the light.

I also have to sign on with the Damn the Toes party. I enjoy the posts. I find it refreshing when I talk to somebody trying to sell something and they aren't too busy kissing up to keep it real. Kilt On. Please.