Thanks ardchoille,

all of what you said has a lot of weight behind it..(opps did I say that) Very good sumation.

I have battled the middle age spead for about 17 years. I am slowly working on the 'change your life style' not the diet asspect and that seems to be a much easier way of attacking the weight loss. Chrome scholar and I have made it a point to walk at least a mile every day and we are up to about 2.5 miles a day.

we no longer keep any desert type foods in the house unless for a special occasion..kids don't need any more sugar then they allready get at school. and we have gone to quality over quantity when it comes to what we are fixing and eating. Spend a little more to get real fresh veggies and fish etc then eating cheap and high carb. I think the change will be much more long lasting, and the kids don't seem to notice, but then my son is growing a 1/4" a week and is a human vacume..I don't think he knows what he eats.