Space Warship Wars!-> Who would win?

[Panache]

I'm a Babylon 5 fan and in my opinion...


A Vorlon Planet Killer wins over the Death Star

A White Star takes out the Millenium Falcon

An Omega Class Destroyer Battle group (with a Warlock class flag ship) beats a fleet of Star Destroyers (with Super Star Destroyer flag ship)

The Excalibur takes out the Enterprise D with one shot

However Archangel was completely right noting that all bets are off with the original Enterprise. For they had the almighty "Kirk Factor" with them.

Against the Kirk Factor it doesn't matter how much advanced technology you have. It won't help if you have superior numbers. He may get a little mussed up (small drip of blood on side of mouth, smudge of dirt on nose, shirt sleeve seam ripped, and hair tossled) but...

He will out think you!

He will out fight you!

He will move you to tears with his manly compassion!

His eloquence will give you pause!

He will sleep with your attractive females clad in their silver Go Go boots!

He is KIRK! And like the Tick, he is nigh invulnerable!

Cheers

Jamie

[ccga3359]

I'm a Babylon 5 fan and in my opinion...


However Archangel was completely right noting that all bets are off with the original Enterprise. For they had the almighty "Kirk Factor" with them.


Jamie

Okay Geeks, Was not the original Enterpise not of a later generation than all the other trek franchises? Would it not be a more powerful weapon through evolving technologies?

[kallen]

hmph...Humans, always limiting yourselves to wimpy Feddie Ships!!!

NOW...K'Tinga would slaughter the Mil. Falcon

Birds of Prey, even the smaller B'Rel class, would stomp an X-wing. The larger K'vort class would also smoke the Falcon and any slaves.

Vor'Cha...those big triangle ships in SW...yeah...there gone. Oh, and the Narn and Centari...targets!!!

NegH'Var...well, there is no competition for that, although the Vorlons would be a nice match.

Remember, we allowed the Federation to join in our victory over the Dominion.

Klingons Rule...Humans Drool...Vulcans go to Pre-School

[MacWage]

hmph...Humans, always limiting yourselves to wimpy Feddie Ships!!!

NOW...K'Tinga would slaughter the Mil. Falcon

Birds of Prey, even the smaller B'Rel class, would stomp an X-wing. The larger K'vort class would also smoke the Falcon and any slaves.

Vor'Cha...those big triangle ships in SW...yeah...there gone. Oh, and the Narn and Centari...targets!!!

NegH'Var...well, there is no competition for that, although the Vorlons would be a nice match.

Remember, we allowed the Federation to join in our victory over the Dominion.

Klingons Rule...Humans Drool...Vulcans go to Pre-School

Anyone wanna guess WHICH race/culture/species he favors?

Swifers?

[starbkjrus]

However Archangel was completely right noting that all bets are off with the original Enterprise. For they had the almighty "Kirk Factor" with them.
Cheers

Jamie

So you're basicly saying that the battle is won by over-acting?

[Nick]

Actually, for the time, the acting was good. Looking back on it now we find it overwrought. But Shatner was down right docile compared to some of the acting in the 30s, for example! But in earlier decades they were acting as if on the stage.

Grant, the point we NCC-1701 types are trying to make is that it's not the technology that matters, it's the people behind it. Or the Kirk.

Kallen, I admit that the Klingon Empire is strong. But look at how many time Kirk beat the Klingons. Okay, so the Organians interveined in "Errand of Mercy", and we'll never know who would have won, but, as the man said, "It would have been glorious!"

Another thing in Kirk's favor, to add to Jamie's excellent list, is that if your ship, base, planet, space station, or car dashboard has a computer, Kirk can talk it to death. In one way or another, "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", "The Return of the Archons," "The Changeling," "I, Mudd," and "The Ultimate Computer," not to mention all the times he talked a higher life form to either death or departure (for instance, "Who Mourns for Adonais?", "Day of the Dove.")

[Yaish]

Re: Old acting

I just love that style. It was largely due to the poor quality of the microphones back then, but I like the "stage style" performances better than the acting done today.

On the original topic, Original Star Trek through guile and trickery.

[Shawnesse]

Actually, for the time, the acting was good. Looking back on it now we find it overwrought. But Shatner was down right docile compared to some of the acting in the 30s, for example! But in earlier decades they were acting as if on the stage.

Grant, the point we NCC-1701 types are trying to make is that it's not the technology that matters, it's the people behind it. Or the Kirk.

Kallen, I admit that the Klingon Empire is strong. But look at how many time Kirk beat the Klingons. Okay, so the Organians interveined in "Errand of Mercy", and we'll never know who would have won, but, as the man said, "It would have been glorious!"

Another thing in Kirk's favor, to add to Jamie's excellent list, is that if your ship, base, planet, space station, or car dashboard has a computer, Kirk can talk it to death. In one way or another, "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", "The Return of the Archons," "The Changeling," "I, Mudd," and "The Ultimate Computer," not to mention all the times he talked a higher life form to either death or departure (for instance, "Who Mourns for Adonais?", "Day of the Dove.")

One thing you may have over looked is that Kirk cheated when he went through the kobishi(sp?) maru. BTW that is a great book.

[Panache]

...NegH'Var...well, there is no competition for that, although the Vorlons would be a nice match.

I looked up the NegH'Var, very impressive. Certainly more than a match against the best the Centauri or Earth Alliance ships (Narn ships while rather advanced looking are actually not as powerful as Centauri or the EA vessels). However I imagine that any of the very large Minbari Capital ships would be a fairly even match. But no comparrison to either the Capital ships of the Vorlon or Shadows.

Cheers

Jamie

[Wompet]

NOW...K'Tinga would slaughter the Mil. Falcon

Birds of Prey, even the smaller B'Rel class, would stomp an X-wing. The larger K'vort class would also smoke the Falcon and any slaves.

Vor'Cha...those big triangle ships in SW...yeah...there gone. Oh, and the Narn and Centari...targets!!!

NegH'Var...well, there is no competition for that, although the Vorlons would be a nice match.

Hmm ... heavy battlecruiser against a freighter ... ship with a crew of 12 versus one-man fighter ... where is the Klingon honor in these actions? Swatting at smugglers is not the action of a true Klingon warrior. Besides, a member of Rogue Squadron or a competent B-Wing pilot would smoke the Bird of Prey.

Vor'Cha battlecruiser against a Star Destroyer - the Imps get this one. If they bother to stop at disabling the Klingons with their ion cannons, they've got hundreds of cannon fodder in white armor for boarding parties.

NegH'Var - dunno, need a size/crew compliment comparison. But it could be taken out by a single Jedi (Corran Horn or Quinlan Vos, or the Wookie Jedi Lobacca)(yeah, that's right - Jedi Wookies. Let's see the Klingons deal with that!)