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    Quote Originally Posted by Curnir View Post
    From what I heard.
    At Dragon Con in Atlanta the Utilikilt guys claimed that a tartan should only be worn by a scot born in Scotland.(second hand gossip, can't confirm it)

    I used to believe this but from what I've read since then I've come to this conclusion:
    Wear the tartan you like, by doing that you honor the clan.
    Exceptions to this rule are Royal tartans, corporate tartans, most military, and private family tartans (that you won't be able to get hold of if you're not a member of the family anyway)

    Have I got it wrong?

    MMM
    Now you are touching a raw nerve :-)

    Alba - Scotland
    Alba Nuadh - Nova Scotia
    Breizh - Brittany
    Cymru - Wales
    Eire - Ireland
    Kernow - Cornwall
    Mannin - Isle of Man

    The above mentioned are Celtic nations and tartans were worn as well as the Scots, so that information of course is incorrect, whether it be gossip or not.
    If it was not hearsay then they need to be out right.
    There are over 50 welsh family tartans as well as national tartans and I am sure more Irish and other family tartans aswel as the Scots tartans, so if the quote is it should only be Scot born in Scotland that can wear Tartan then they or whom needs to be put right.
    As for family tartans not being available, well there are many who wear a family tartan of which they are not belonging to, you can even buy them off e-bay.

    It does bother me at times when I wear my Kilt with comments like (your not Scottish why are you wearing a Tartan Kilt) well my Jones and St David’s Tartans are of course Welsh but trying to explain this to the ignorant is hard work, yes of course you see many more Scots wearing Kilts than here in Wales maybe the reason it is why they all use Scotland as the Kilt land, and of course the Tartan Army of rugby fans certainly make it so.
    I am sure all here know this, I just thought with not seeing a reply to the fact I thought I would just mention it :-)
    No offence intended if it reads so.

    regards all
    Richard
    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Union Richard View Post
    MMM
    Now you are touching a raw nerve :-)

    Alba - Scotland
    Alba Nuadh - Nova Scotia
    Breizh - Brittany
    Cymru - Wales
    Eire - Ireland
    Kernow - Cornwall
    Mannin - Isle of Man

    The above mentioned are Celtic nations and tartans were worn as well as the Scots, so that information of course is incorrect, whether it be gossip or not.
    If it was not hearsay then they need to be out right.
    There are over 50 welsh family tartans as well as national tartans and I am sure more Irish and other family tartans aswel as the Scots tartans, so if the quote is it should only be Scot born in Scotland that can wear Tartan then they or whom needs to be put right.
    Aye, I knew about this.
    As for family tartans not being available, well there are many who wear a family tartan of which they are not belonging to, you can even buy them off e-bay.
    Oh ok, I know I've read somewhere that some mills only sell certain tartans to family members. But then again that could have been a rumour.

    No offence intended if it reads so.
    None taken

    My question arose from listening to a podcast where they discussed kilts and Dragon Con, and one of the fans (they tape the podcast live with an open chatroom) who is Scottish and damn proud of it commented that non-tartan kilts are not kilts at all (something I disagree with btw).
    The podcasters then started talking about tartans being seen as "holy" by the scottish and that only scots should wear them, and that the UK rep at dragon con had said something to that effect.
    The scot and I responded with something similar with what I wrote earlier.



    I myself wear my Campbells of the 42nd and MacDonald modern with pride.

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    Ah I found the podcast.

    http://media.libsyn.com/media/dragon...012_070919.mp3

    the kilt talk starts 43 min 30 sec into the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Union Richard View Post
    MMM
    Now you are touching a raw nerve :-)

    Alba - Scotland
    Alba Nuadh - Nova Scotia
    Breizh - Brittany
    Cymru - Wales
    Eire - Ireland
    Kernow - Cornwall
    Mannin - Isle of Man

    The above mentioned are Celtic nations and tartans were worn as well as the Scots, so that information of course is incorrect, whether it be gossip or not.
    If it was not hearsay then they need to be out right.
    There are over 50 welsh family tartans as well as national tartans and I am sure more Irish and other family tartans aswel as the Scots tartans, so if the quote is it should only be Scot born in Scotland that can wear Tartan then they or whom needs to be put right.
    As for family tartans not being available, well there are many who wear a family tartan of which they are not belonging to, you can even buy them off e-bay.

    It does bother me at times when I wear my Kilt with comments like (your not Scottish why are you wearing a Tartan Kilt) well my Jones and St David’s Tartans are of course Welsh but trying to explain this to the ignorant is hard work, yes of course you see many more Scots wearing Kilts than here in Wales maybe the reason it is why they all use Scotland as the Kilt land, and of course the Tartan Army of rugby fans certainly make it so.
    I am sure all here know this, I just thought with not seeing a reply to the fact I thought I would just mention it :-)
    No offence intended if it reads so.

    regards all
    Richard
    I hae tae be honest, but a hae never associated Welsh wi' kilts nor there national dress. However a dae realise they are Celts. Are the Welsh tartans naw a modern thing? And of course Scotland is the kilt land!!!

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