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6th December 07, 03:03 PM
#1
FWIW, I just read on another site, from a piper living in Israel, mention of a MacAbee tartan. The limited looking around I've done on MacAbee/MacAbi leads to MacFie.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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6th December 07, 03:21 PM
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 Originally Posted by Macman
FWIW, I just read on another site, from a piper living in Israel, mention of a MacAbee tartan. The limited looking around I've done on MacAbee/MacAbi leads to MacFie.
Judah Maccabi is the protagonist of the Chanukah story, which took place in 167 BCE. Another transliteration of the name is Maccabee. Doubt he's related to the MacFie's
Best regard,
Jake
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6th December 07, 06:05 PM
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Last edited by Macman; 6th December 07 at 06:08 PM.
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"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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6th December 07, 06:13 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Macman
I agree, Jake; it just sounded sort of cool if you say MacAbee fast  . It's kind of like my wife's mom's maiden name - Mikschewitsch. I kid some of her family members that they're a long lost Scottish clan that ended up in Russia - the McShevich clan. 
Actually if Mac is Son of, then wouldn't that be Son of Vitch?
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9th December 07, 02:47 AM
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It's Gordon
This just in from our intrepid informant in Glasgow who talked to his neighborhood rabbi in the most heavily Jewish section of Glasgow, and of Scotland. "He [the rabbi] said he can't think of any tartan other than Gordon that Jewish folk wear, but he says he certainly assumes someone is Jewish if he sees them wearing the Gordon tartan in this area of Glasgow. (Dress or regular.)"
Vox populi vox dei. Gordon seems to be the tartan most authentically associated with Jewish Scots.
Thanks Arlen.
Last edited by gilmore; 9th December 07 at 11:30 PM.
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9th December 07, 11:25 PM
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 Originally Posted by gilmore
This just in from our intrepid informant in Glasgow who talked to his neighborhood rabbi in the most heavily Jewish section of Glasgow, and of Scotland. "He said he can't think of any tartan other than Gordon that Jewish folk wear, but he says he certainly assumes someone is Jewish if he sees them wearing the Gordon tartan in this area of Glasgow. (Dress or regular.)"
Vox populi, vox Dei. Gordon seems to be the tartan most authentically associated with Jewish Scots.
Thanks Arlen.
Wow, what a thought, that one would be assumed to be JEWISH from wearing a kilt! 
But just as there are differences of liturgy and language between Shepardic and Ashkenazim, why not accept that other tartans could be developed for Jewish identification? Personally, I wonder if one would want to be identified as a Gordon OUTSIDE of that region if the link is one's status as a son of the covenant.
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11th December 07, 02:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by Galician
Wow, what a thought, that one would be assumed to be JEWISH from wearing a kilt!  ...
To be clear, it was the rabbi who said he assumed that some one wearing a Gordon tartan in that neighborhood would be Jewish, not the person who told me about it. In other words, that is how common it is for Glaswegian Jews to wear Gordon tartan.
I don't think it's any stranger than to be assumed to be a Robertson if one is wearing a Robertson tartan, or a Campbell if wearing a Campbell tartan, etc. In fact that is why many if not most of us wear kilts: to identify with a clan or other group of people.
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6th December 07, 03:24 PM
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 Originally Posted by Macman
FWIW, I just read on another site, from a piper living in Israel, mention of a MacAbee tartan.
I think that's just a bit of word play. Judah Maccabee was a leader of a revolt against a hellenistic dynasty that attempted to forbid Jewish religious practices. The Maccabees were his followers and many Jewish sports teams, groups and even a brewery have that name. Incidentally the name means "hammer" in Hebrew, so it's possible to get hammered on hammer in hebrew.
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