what is the name for this?

**JS Sanders** · 12th February 08, 02:11 PM

The shoe I meant was the last one depicted.... Buckle Brogue Patent Leather.

Having said that, a better brogue than the ghillie would be something like the Culloden shoe. These can be purchased in the US as the same shoes that 18th century re-enactors use. The only caveat, they really should be glossy black and that takes a minor amount of skill and a beau coup of elbow grease.

Hose like that are usually custom-made to match the tartan. I'm certain someone else can provide a source. I wear red-white diced hose - it matches all my kilts.

Slainte yall,
steve

**Chef** · 12th February 08, 02:16 PM

The shoe referred to above are buckle brogues:

They are considered the dressiest kilt shoe although I truly hate them.

**JS Sanders** · 12th February 08, 02:22 PM

Copy that pard. They really look effeminate to eyes too, but that style dates back to the Victorian era, if not further.

**JamieKerr** · 12th February 08, 02:44 PM

I'm not a big fan of those shoes either...So I'm looking around at alternative buckled shoes. I stumbled across these, and can't decide if I like them or hate them...

**turpin** · 12th February 08, 03:43 PM

Ya know, I kind of like those!

**JamieKerr** · 12th February 08, 04:48 PM

I think I like them too, they kind of have a classic feel with a modern style

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 12th February 08, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Chef

The shoe referred to above are buckle brogues:

They are considered the dressiest kilt shoe although I truly hate them.

I feel betrayed! How can a fellow kilt snob HATE buckled dress brogues? (Love the new avatar, BTW) I know, he's actually seen them and realizes that they don't look "quite right". Which they don't. I've put a pair of antique buckles on mine, but that still doesn't make it for me. Close, but no cigar. I didn't know what was wrong until I saw a pair dating from BTHW (Before The Hitler War). These were patent leather (like mine) but made with extremely think soles, virtually no welt, and had less of a rounded toe. WOWEE!!! What an elegant shoe. Possibly even elegant enough for Lord Snooty to change his mind.

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 12th February 08, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by JamieKerr

They are the perfect shoe if you play in a Mariachi Band

**JamieKerr** · 12th February 08, 05:01 PM

You just made me snort my g&t out my nose, jerk

**McMurdo** · 12th February 08, 05:44 PM

Well I for one like the Buckle Brogues much better than Ghillie Brogues, the Ghillies look a bit costume like, and are in my opinion seen far too often. My Buckle Brogues are from Nichol Bros. they are no longer in business however you can still find old stock on ebay
Here are my Buckle Brogues:

Here are the Ghillies:

I too have been looking for Montrose Doublet as again the P.C. is seen far too often, and yes I realize that the Montrose is akin to white tie, but as I have a P.C. already I think I would like one as another option.