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6th March 08, 11:15 AM
#1
Okay...I have nothing against the tune..it's a beautiful melody...if you've ever seen the movie Brassed Off, one of the most touching parts of the film is when the colliery brass band plays it outside their fallen director's hospital window...it gets me entirely verklempt just like the part where they sing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" under Babe Ruth's hospital window in The Babe Ruth Story.
I'm just kinda fed up with the abuse and overuse of the song...and if Dennis Day is listening from the afterlife, yeah...I mean you, buddy.
But here's the Brassed Off scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKDYE6ZGUV8
...you will, no doubt, recognize several very familiar faces.
And if you need to cheer back up after that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU
...damn, I love youtube!
Best
AA
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7th March 08, 02:07 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
Okay...I have nothing against the tune..it's a beautiful melody...if you've ever seen the movie Brassed Off, one of the most touching parts of the film is when the colliery brass band plays it outside their fallen director's hospital window...it gets me entirely verklempt just like the part where they sing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" under Babe Ruth's hospital window in The Babe Ruth Story.
I'm just kinda fed up with the abuse and overuse of the song...and if Dennis Day is listening from the afterlife, yeah...I mean you, buddy.
But here's the Brassed Off scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKDYE6ZGUV8
...you will, no doubt, recognize several very familiar faces.
And if you need to cheer back up after that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU
...damn, I love youtube!
Best
AA
    I needed both of those today.Thanks
Bob
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7th March 08, 03:28 PM
#3
24 hours later and I'm still put off about this. I think it no coincidence that the barman chose March as the month to ban this song and because the lyrics were written by an Englishman. The is a little ditty that is quite popular south of the border entitled "Star Spangled Banner". I'm curious if this song is banned during the month of July as the tune is originally an English drinking song composed by Englishman John Stafford Smith. Kudos though to Francis Scott Key for his updated powerful lyrics. Getting off the soap box now.
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7th March 08, 03:46 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
24 hours later and I'm still put off about this. I think it no coincidence that the barman chose March as the month to ban this song and because the lyrics were written by an Englishman. The is a little ditty that is quite popular south of the border entitled "Star Spangled Banner". I'm curious if this song is banned during the month of July as the tune is originally an English drinking song composed by Englishman John Stafford Smith. Kudos though to Francis Scott Key for his updated powerful lyrics. Getting off the soap box now.
You're not the only one, Graham. 
T.
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7th March 08, 03:53 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
You're not the only one, Graham.
T.
And you too Grant
Todd , how much sleep are you getting these days? 
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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7th March 08, 03:55 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
24 hours later and I'm still put off about this. I think it no coincidence that the barman chose March as the month to ban this song and because the lyrics were written by an Englishman. The is a little ditty that is quite popular south of the border entitled "Star Spangled Banner". I'm curious if this song is banned during the month of July as the tune is originally an English drinking song composed by Englishman John Stafford Smith. Kudos though to Francis Scott Key for his updated powerful lyrics. Getting off the soap box now.
Of course not! We love "Anacreon in Heaven". 
On a more general note, throughout the 19th C. national melody collections were published by all manner of publishers. The fact that many of the tunes did not in fact originate in the claimed nations, didn't bother the publishers or the public one bit. These collections sold like hot cakes and were just another element of the emergent sheet music industry. A second resurgence came with advent of recorded music and this time the ancient national tunes were recorded, even if they had to be written just for the occasion. The one that springs to mind from the late 18th C is "All Those Endearing Young Charms" from Moores Irish Melodies published in 1804. It was an English waltz but sounded Irish enough for inclusion. The lyrics were added in the mid 19th C and the rest is "history" or so they tell me.
I know that Danny Boy is overplayed but I heard a man sing it in church once and my eyes just unloaded!
Bob
Last edited by Amoskeag; 7th March 08 at 03:57 PM.
Reason: cant spell weird words
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7th March 08, 04:19 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by Amoskeag
I know that Danny Boy is overplayed but I heard a man sing it in church once and my eyes just unloaded!
Amazing Grace always does it for me. Can a song that evokes so much emotion ever be overplayed. It's possible that one is not in the mood to hear it at that particular time. Star Spangled Banner with the right voice and a certain pause before "And the rocket's red glare..." Wow!
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7th March 08, 05:30 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Amoskeag
The one that springs to mind from the late 18th C is "All Those Endearing Young Charms" from Moores Irish Melodies published in 1804. It was an English waltz but sounded Irish enough for inclusion. The lyrics were added in the mid 19th C and the rest is "history" or so they tell me.
And then it was used for Tennessee's state song, albeit with slight modification.
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7th March 08, 05:09 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
24 hours later and I'm still put off about this. I think it no coincidence that the barman chose March as the month to ban this song and because the lyrics were written by an Englishman. The is a little ditty that is quite popular south of the border entitled "Star Spangled Banner". I'm curious if this song is banned during the month of July as the tune is originally an English drinking song composed by Englishman John Stafford Smith. Kudos though to Francis Scott Key for his updated powerful lyrics. Getting off the soap box now.
Isn't there another popular US song called "My Country 'Tis of Thee" that is just different lyrics set to "God Save the Queen"? A bit funny to have a patriotic song based off the anthem of your former ruler, I think.
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
Amazing Grace always does it for me. Can a song that evokes so much emotion ever be overplayed. It's possible that one is not in the mood to hear it at that particular time. Star Spangled Banner with the right voice and a certain pause before "And the rocket's red glare..." Wow!
My sister can't listen to Amazing Grace anymore because a piper played it at my other sister's burial at sea. It can be a very emotional song and no other instrument but the pipes can do it justice.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
Those that understand binary, and those that don't.
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7th March 08, 05:30 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by emolas
Isn't there another popular US song called "My Country 'Tis of Thee" that is just different lyrics set to "God Save the Queen"? A bit funny to have a patriotic song based off the anthem of your former ruler, I think.
I did not know that.
 Originally Posted by emolas
My sister can't listen to Amazing Grace anymore because a piper played it at my other sister's burial at sea. It can be a very emotional song and no other instrument but the pipes can do it justice.
Unfortunatly this may be the same situation that so many are introduced to the song, this and the only Bible passage I know Psalm 23.
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