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    Quote Originally Posted by Coemgen View Post
    I think it's too early to tell.

    "Too early to tell" ... too early to say... it means the same thing. The word "say" is the same as the word "tell". They're not spelt the same, but they mean the same. It's an identical situation, we have with "ship" and "boat" but not the same as we have with "bow" and "bough," they're spelt differently, mean different things but sound the same. So there. But the real question remains. What is the solution, if any, to this problem? What can we do? What am I saying? Why am I sitting in this chair? Why am I on this programme? And what am I going to say next?

    What do we mean by no, what do we mean by yes, what do we mean by no, no, no?

    16 ton weight drops on Coemgen. The signalman apologises and goes back to wrestling with a bear.


    Yes! The only solution to the problem is to destroy the box because the experiment had already been started.

    For example, if you take the beginning and end of your time in this universe, like a film strip, and loop it. You can also twist the film before looping it. At that point of twist an outside observer can see forward and bacward time overlapping... And the instant is born, held, and passed all in one!

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    But if you destroy the box then there is no longer the possibility of thinking outside it, as there is no longer an outside, though it could be argued that the destruction negates even the concept of there being an inside, and that after it is gone all thought is outside the box.

    If the cat is still there has the experiment been expanded or has the universe shrunk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pleater View Post
    But if you destroy the box then there is no longer the possibility of thinking outside it, as there is no longer an outside, though it could be argued that the destruction negates even the concept of there being an inside, and that after it is gone all thought is outside the box.

    If the cat is still there has the experiment been expanded or has the universe shrunk?


    The destruction of the box results in the experiment becoming a single sided mobius sphear because the observer still observes and the cat also observes. The experiment had been being conducted, therefore, had a beginning and end. The observers of both the inside and outside of the box continued after the destruction of the box, so the observers have created a time loop in remembering that there was a box. This of course takes the form of a sphear or bubble, but there is only a single side because there was one box being observed by two observers. In other words, there was only one box, but the box now only exists in the minds of the observers. Both observers observed that there was only one box, but now there are two boxes, one in each mind of each observer.

    The cat only knew the box from the inside, and the observer on the outside only knew the outside. That is during the experiment. So the one box exists in full in two minds as one box. A little like a hologram... I guess. Therefore, the box or universe is copied over and over from different observations and memories and exists across the whole of all that observes creating a universe both inside and outside of itself.
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