The Mayflower

[gilmore]

I have followed one branch of my family tree back to Richard and Isabella (Smyth) Pace, who settled in Jamestown. As Gilmore explains, I am probably one of those who have descended mostly from lower continental stock. But the branches get rather thin that far back, so who could say?

Regards,
Rex.

Not so. Most of the Jamestowne and other early Virginia lines are extremely well researched. See http://www.jamestowne.org and http://www.ancientplanters.org/

I also descend almost totally from Southerners, including Jamestowne immigrants Christopher Branch and John Rolfe, and the latter's wife, Pocahontas.

[Rex_Tremende]

Not so. Most of the Jamestowne and other early Virginia lines are extremely well researched.

What I mean to say is that few of my family lines can be traced as far back as that, so I actually have no idea whether any of them orignated from Plymouth or anywhere else in the northeast.

Regards,
Rex.

[Cawdorian]

http://www.ancientplanters.org/

I also descend almost totally from Southerners, including Jamestowne immigrants Christopher Branch and John Rolfe, and the latter's wife, Pocahontas.

Gil, this must make us distant cousins, I am a descendant of John Rolfe and his pre-Pochahontas wife Jane Pierce on my father's side of the family. My mother's family are descendants of some of the earlier settlers of Jamestown (Thomas Thornbury and his wife Alice Lane), he is listed on the Ancient Planter's website noted above. The genealogy of most of these folks are well documented

Most of my ancestors came out of the Virginia and Pennsylvania areas, I don't have any ancestors that came over on the Mayflower either.

[gilmore]

Gil, this must make us distant cousins, I am a descendant of John Rolfe and his pre-Pochahontas wife Elizabeth Pierce on my father's side of the family. ...

So, we must be half-thirteenth or 14th cousins, perhaps a few times removed?

[Riverkilt]

Maybe, I should just defer to the Massachusetts State Tartan...



Ron

[SteveB]

I have mentioned my Mayflower ancestry as this thread is about a Mayflower tartan. Most of us in the Mayflower Society do not dispute the settlement at Jamestowne. After all Stephen Hopkins of the Mayflower, was also on the first vessel to Jamestowne, but had returned to England, then came back to the "Northern parts of Virginia" with the Mayflower. Another of my ancestors was a settler at Jamestowne. In North America, we are a melting pot. Our society has become so mobile that a gentleman I work with has patrilinial lines to Cuba, hence his Spanish name, and lineage to the Mayflower. His mother is a Jamestowne descendant, as well as Scot, French, and German. He was born in Miami, Fl, and has grown up in Virginia, currently has his home in New York, and works in Massachusetts.
The migration is such that the Canadian Society of Mayflower Descendants a few Congresses ago had most of their Howland, and Warren descendants from British Columbia.
By the time my fingers got this far, I had forgotten who posted about John Alden ancestry. The Alden Kindred have a wonderful genealogist who is very helpful on filling the lineage information trail. I believe the webbie is www.alden.org, then click on the family tree and see how close it gets to you. You may be surprised. She responds well to email.

[Riverkilt]

What an incredible website - thanks Steve. Looks like I can help them add to the project.

Ron

[SteveB]

Ron and John,
Alicia is a past Historian of the Massachusetts Society. She is the chief researcher of the Alden "silver". She is also the genealogist for the Alden Kindred. I mentioned the website as John had mentioned proving his line. Just about everything that is on the Alden Kindred website is already proven genealogy. Alicia does not believe in reinventing the wheel. The proof is needed to extend the branches from the already mature trunk. Ron - she welcomes contributions from all, not just those joining the Kindred. I have had the pleasure of working with her when I accidentally ran into some solid Alden descendant vital records that established a few more generations for her. I am not blessed with an Alden/Mullins line.
Cheers -- Steve