A place called Ticonderoga

**Riverkilt** · 29th April 08, 06:12 PM

My ancestors fought for both sides at Ticonderoga during the Revolutionary War...that is really spooky to me. Glad their mutual aims were poor.

Sorta speaks to the insanity of war that foes would one day have common descendents.

Ron

**macwilkin** · 29th April 08, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

My ancestors fought for both sides at Ticonderoga during the Revolutionary War...that is really spooky to me. Glad their mutual aims were poor.

Sorta speaks to the insanity of war that foes would one day have common descendents.

Ron

It certainly supports the theory that the American Revolution was our first "Civil War" anyway.

T.

**SteveB** · 29th April 08, 09:38 PM

This piece of history is a reminder that not all siblings get along well. I descend from all five sons of Jacob Van Wart, four of them fought on the side of the patriots the fifth fought on the side of the Loyalists. Jacob Junior and John allegedly injured each other in this battle. History has not really proven one way or the other.
There are very few wars that do not split families. Many clans were split during the early battles in Scotland. A practice that is still going on today, only it is Iraqi families enduring the scars instead of ancient Scots.

**Woodsheal** · 30th April 08, 03:24 AM

FYI, the cairn commemorates the 42nd's service in the 1758 battle (during the French & Indian War), not the Revolutionary War. I don't think the Black Watch served at or near Ticonderoga during the latter conflict....

**macwilkin** · 30th April 08, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

FYI, the cairn commemorates the 42nd's service in the 1758 battle (during the French & Indian War), not the Revolutionary War. I don't think the Black Watch served at or near Ticonderoga during the latter conflict....

Aye; The RHR didn't arrive "in country" until May, 1776.

T.

**kiltimabar** · 30th April 08, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Aye; The RHR didn't arrive "in country" until May, 1776.

T.

But I believe the Black Watch was with Burgoyne when he re-took Ticonderoga from the Americans in the Saratoga campaign in 1777.

**macwilkin** · 30th April 08, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by kiltimabar

But I believe the Black Watch was with Burgoyne when he re-took Ticonderoga from the Americans in the Saratoga campaign in 1777.

In the Fall of 1777 the Black Watch was in Pennsylvania; they fought at Brandywine on 11 September, and at Germantown on 5 October. They began the year in New Jersey, according to the article "The Black Watch in America", which is in a programme from their 1990 North American tour.

T.