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13th October 08, 01:31 PM
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Oh well, I do not flaunt traditions. If there is something made to be worn, and there is no 'prohibition' or 'restriction' to wear it, then I guess I fail to see where the flaunting of traditions is.
I do not wear military uniforms, I do not wear nobility tartan or other restricted items and I do not wear mdeals or claim to be something I am not. Never have.
Hector,
Respectfully, though, you've just contradicted yourself. The Polaris tartan, whilst not an official part of the US Navy uniform, is symbolic of service in the US Navy specific to the submarine base at Holy Loch in Scotland. By wearing it, even though it is not "illegal" to do so, you are, in a sense, claiming to be something you're not (if you didn't serve at Holy Loch or on a "Boomer") -- and by "you" and I am not referring to you personally.
For many, the tradition of tartan is wearing something that has a special symbolic meaning to the wearer. I'm all for anyone wearing whatever tartan they wish, but for me, I have to have a personal connection.
Regards,
Todd
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13th October 08, 02:17 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Hector,
Respectfully, though, you've just contradicted yourself. The Polaris tartan, whilst not an official part of the US Navy uniform, is symbolic of service in the US Navy specific to the submarine base at Holy Loch in Scotland. By wearing it, even though it is not "illegal" to do so, you are, in a sense, claiming to be something you're not (if you didn't serve at Holy Loch or on a "Boomer") -- and by "you" and I am not referring to you personally.
Fine, if you say I have, then I guess I have.
So are all of us here at XMTS wearing all sorts of tartans then. Whether we are affiliated with a group or not.
Again, if 99.999% of the people have no idea what a Polaris even is, I still fail to see the argument of people 'claiming' to be anything.
I certainly am not a Soldier nor claim to be one but I sure am proud of my Black Watch kilt.
I am not a Marine nor have I been but the Leatherneck tartan sure looks good on me.
I'm not fond of this particular Polaris tartan but if someone likes it, by all means wear it.
For many, the tradition of tartan is wearing something that has a special symbolic meaning to the wearer. I'm all for anyone wearing whatever tartan they wish, but for me, I have to have a personal connection.
Regards,
Todd
Agreed, that is why I am anxiously waiting for the day when I can save and justify enough money to have my own Young Tartan kilt made.
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13th October 08, 02:24 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by hospitaller
Fine, if you say I have, then I guess I have.
So are all of us here at XMTS wearing all sorts of tartans then. Whether we are affiliated with a group or not.
Again, if 99.999% of the people have no idea what a Polaris even is, I still fail to see the argument of people 'claiming' to be anything.
I certainly am not a Soldier nor claim to be one but I sure am proud of my Black Watch kilt.
I am not a Marine nor have I been but the Leatherneck tartan sure looks good on me.
I'm not fond of this particular Polaris tartan but if someone likes it, by all means wear it.
Agreed, that is why I am anxiously waiting for the day when I can save and justify enough money to have my own Young Tartan kilt made.
My apologies for not being clearer; let me just say up front that my opinions on tartan symbolism are my own personal beliefs. I only hold myself to them, no one else. I am certainly not applying them to you personally.
I am just offering "food for thought" from a traditionalist point-of-view.
Again, apologies for the misunderstanding.
Todd
Last edited by macwilkin; 13th October 08 at 02:33 PM.
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13th October 08, 08:39 PM
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Todd, I have to agree with you here. It is just my personal feeling but I would feel strange wearing a military tartan I had no affiliation with. I served in the Army for several years so I may get a kilt in the US Army tartan. But there is no way I would feel right about wearing a Polaris or USMC tartan kilt and that is not just because I think jarheads are all bunch of knuckleheads either. Only kidding nothing but respect for anyone who has served regardless of service.
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