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27th October 08, 04:55 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Casey_in_Carolina
First off, I think you, and the others, are correct, I think it's a newsboy cap. I just couldn't think of that when I made my original post, all I could think of was paperboy, and I knew that wasn't right
I also had no idea that the style of hat, newsboy or flatcap, wouldn't be worn with a kilt in Scotland. Why is that? Is the Glengarry or Balmoral so much more popular that you just wouldn't see it, or is there some prejudice against the flatcap, or what?
I really love my newsboy, and have just about worn it out. It was a gift from friend of the family years and years ago, so I guess I'll have to go on a hunt to find a replacement. I'll also have to look and see if I can find it in different patterns or colors or solids.
Thanks for all of the input guys.
Casey
PS - just checked, and it is an eight panel Newsboy from the "Stanley-Evans Custom Collection", or so sayeth the label  It's made in the US and has a brown liner which could be silk or polyester made to look liek silk, that has the trademarked name "Pendleton" embroidered in it in several places.
For some reason,that I don't know, flat caps have not been worn with the kilt in Scotland, since about 1914.There is plenty of photographic evidence of tweed caps being worn with the kilt before then. It is now never seen as kilt attire here. Usually we go bare headed when wearing the kilt, the occasional balmoral is seen and apart from pipe bands, members of the tartan army and visitors, the glengarry is almost never seen as civilian wear,nor is,I am glad to say, the John Deere type hat. If the weather is too bad most kilt wearers(rare anyway)will wear a "fore and aft".
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27th October 08, 04:13 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
For some reason,that I don't know, flat caps have not been worn with the kilt in Scotland, since about 1914.There is plenty of photographic evidence of tweed caps being worn with the kilt before then. It is now never seen as kilt attire here. Usually we go bare headed when wearing the kilt, the occasional balmoral is seen and apart from pipe bands, members of the tartan army and visitors, the glengarry is almost never seen as civilian wear,nor is,I am glad to say, the John Deere type hat. If the weather is too bad most kilt wearers(rare anyway)will wear a "fore and aft".
I have always heard that here in the U.S. flat caps went out of style because they became associated with being worn by criminals and other unsavory folk in the 1930's and '40's or so.
I would like to wear a balmoral (or even a glengarry) more often, but once again a problem we have is that clothing that evolved for Scotland's climate isn't always so good elsewhere in the world.
I have had one skin cancer already, and my dermotologist strongly encourages me to wear both sun screen and a hat that shades the face and neck, if I must go out in the sun, in order to avoid others. I have read that in Australia and the US and other sunny places settled by Europeans the incidence of skin cancer is on the rise. Most of them aren't too serious, especially if treated in time, but melanoma can be fatal.
I have taken to wearing a fairly wide-brimmed Panama straw hat outdoors with a kilt, the kind that was worn with a suit in the South until a couple of decades ago, something like these http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...h+Images&gbv=2 It's cool, well-ventilated, and gives some shade. It might not be entirely correct or consistent, but I don't think risking cancer is sufficient reason to be excrutiatingly fashionable..
Last edited by gilmore; 27th October 08 at 04:19 PM.
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27th October 08, 04:21 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by gilmore
I have always heard that here in the U.S. flat caps went out of style because they became associated with being worn by criminals and other unsavory folk in the 1930's and '40's or so.
That maybe, but there seems to have been a resurgence of the flat cap, at least around here. You can't swing the proverbial dead cat without striking someone sporting one (& it's not just the local college crowd wearing them either). Toss in the occasional (& around here rare) 8-panel newsboy, like my own 
I know they are very popular with my friends in the greaser-rockabilly scene in California & across the country.
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