79th New York Highlanders Reg.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

The Cameron of Erracht kilt sold at WPG is not a replica of the 79th NY Cameron kilt. It is a more modern military kilt. A lot of 79th reenactors wear the modern kilts, but this is technically incorrect.

The kilts worn by the 79th NY Cameron Highlanders were 6 yards long, box pleated, and machine stitched throughout. The pleating was neither to stripe nor to sett -- it appears that the tailors attempted to pleat to the sett somewhat but it's not correct. The aprons are fringed, but the fringe doesn't line up to the sett of the tartan. There is a single strap & buckle on the outside of the right hip and a single strap and buckle on the inside of the left hip (how I make my kilts). All of these things are different from modern Cameron military kilts.

Remember, these kilts were made from Scottish cloth, but they were made by NY dress makers, not Scottish kilt makers, who were doing their best job at recreating a Scottish kilt with no training in doing such.

[Kilted Rogue]

The Cameron of Erracht kilt sold at WPG is not a replica of the 79th NY Cameron kilt. It is a more modern military kilt. A lot of 79th reenactors wear the modern kilts, but this is technically incorrect.

The kilts worn by the 79th NY Cameron Highlanders were 6 yards long, box pleated, and machine stitched throughout. The pleating was neither to stripe nor to sett -- it appears that the tailors attempted to pleat to the sett somewhat but it's not correct. The aprons are fringed, but the fringe doesn't line up to the sett of the tartan. There is a single strap & buckle on the outside of the right hip and a single strap and buckle on the inside of the left hip (how I make my kilts). All of these things are different from modern Cameron military kilts.

Remember, these kilts were made from Scottish cloth, but they were made by NY dress makers, not Scottish kilt makers, who were doing their best job at recreating a Scottish kilt with no training in doing such.

thank you Mr Newsome,
I was hoping you would weigh in on my query. Do you know if the 79th kilts would have been worn Higher up ( like the WPG Kilts) or where we wear our trad. kilts today.

Also is it posible to get a Closer reproduction of the 79th Cameron kilt than what WPG sells.

~B

[79thReproductions]

Okay, done
Hopefully she'll be on soon

I got the message, thank you!

Ill get to it right off....

There are two uniforms that you can shoot for with the parade (Dress) uniform being the hardest and most expensive to put together. The fatigue uniform is less expensive and still very impressive.

Here is a gear list for a proper 79th parade uniform from head to toes:

79th NY Glengarry:
My brother on the left is wearing one with correct pre-war/early-war insignia


79th NY Militia jacket:
http://a606.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...197f1a2ca5.jpg

Marine Corp Shoulder scales with Fringe plates:
The rank specific fringe was attached to the plates and inserted into the scales. Senior NCOs wore a gold fringe while the rest of the enlisted wore Red.
http://i38.tinypic.com/20zthk9.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/29114rd.jpg

Issue Grey wool flannel shirt:
http://www.wwandcompany.com/images/issueshirt1.jpg

m1839 waist belt: (Also known as the "Baby US" belt)

Shield pattern Cap Pouch:
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/ca...ch/pw24172.jpg
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/ca...w241back72.jpg

m1857 .69 Cal. Cartridge Box:
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/li...1857_small.jpg
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/li...back_small.jpg

m1851 Sewn .69 Cal. Springfield scabbard:
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/ca...20scabbard.JPG

The kilt is as Mr. Newsome described. Unfortunately, I do not have any pictures of one yet as I have not ordered one from Mr. Newsome yet.
If you are in the market for one, Go only to that man. Anything else would be a far cry from a 79th kilt.

79th NY Sporran:
http://i33.tinypic.com/2eybdqf.jpg

Red/White Diced Full hose
http://i34.tinypic.com/2rz9f1g.jpg

Colonial low cut buckle shoes
http://i35.tinypic.com/2vcytn4.jpg

1816, 1842, Springfield Rifle/Smooth bore

Heres an original 1816 Flintlock conversion. The same model as discribed in the unit history.

http://www.andersonmilitaria.com/Web_Pages/firearms/17F.htm"]http://www.andersonmilitaria.com/Web_Pages/firearms/17F.htm

There are some extras that are needed for rank specific impressions.

NCOS:
Red NCO Sash

1850 NCO Militia sword without fraternal markings

Rank specific Light blue infantry Chevrons made from 3/8" wool tape.

I can get to a list of how much that all costs, and where to get every single item.

Here is a picture of one of my 79th uniforms compared to a 79th Soldier of the same rank. Sorry for the low quality. Its what I get for using a cell phone

Differences are:
Gair is wearing the m1839 waist belt, not the m1857 as shown with this uniform
My uniform is without shoulder scales
This uniform has trews, not the kilt as Sgt Gair is wearing



Ill keep close for this thread!
Rachel