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    I'm confused now too. I thought the Deerstalker was the double brim hat with the ear flaps that are often tied up on the hat. I thought the Fore & Aft was basically the same, but without the flaps... Holmes was usually depicted with the Deerstalker... I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    I'm confused now too. I thought the Deerstalker was the double brim hat with the ear flaps that are often tied up on the hat. I thought the Fore & Aft was basically the same, but without the flaps... Holmes was usually depicted with the Deerstalker... I thought.
    Well...uh, yes...that's why I'm asking
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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    Yes I can see the confusion and I am not to blame! Well that's my story anyway! I have looked at the Sutherland ------ website and they do indeed confuse things more than somewhat with their labeling.Haggarts of Aberfeldy label their hats the same way. I have had it explained, by some one who knows, that they are so tired of explaining to visitors which hat is which, that they have bowed to pressure to call a deer stalker a Sherlock Holmes for a quiet life! I could be wrong(please accept my apologies if I am), but at a guess the Sutherland Tweed shop probably gets their hats from the same source as Haggarts, hence the same labeling. REST ASSURED WE LOCALS call a deer stalker a deer stalker NOT repeat NOT EVER a Sherlock Holmes and WE call a fore and aft a fore and aft and NOT repeat NOT EVER a deer stalker. In other words, Deer stalker with flaps. Fore and aft WITHOUT ear flaps.

    Out of interest you will see the BUGATTI cap advertised and shown on the Sutherland website(another connection to Haggarts?)If you chaps want a versitile cap that can keep the head,ears and neck warm then look no further. I cannot praise this bit of clothing highly enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Yes I can see the confusion and I am not to blame! Well that's my story anyway! I have looked at the Sutherland ------ website and they do indeed confuse things more than somewhat with their labeling.Haggarts of Aberfeldy label their hats the same way. I have had it explained, by some one who knows, that they are so tired of explaining to visitors which hat is which, that they have bowed to pressure to call a deer stalker a Sherlock Holmes for a quiet life! I could be wrong(please accept my apologies if I am), but at a guess the Sutherland Tweed shop probably gets their hats from the same source as Haggarts, hence the same labeling. REST ASSURED WE LOCALS call a deer stalker a deer stalker NOT repeat NOT EVER a Sherlock Holmes and WE call a fore and aft a fore and aft and NOT repeat NOT EVER a deer stalker. In other words, Deer stalker with flaps. Fore and aft WITHOUT ear flaps.
    Thanks for clearing that up Jock!
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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