US Civil War Highland Regiments

[wvpiper]

The Scottish ancestry was by that time fairly remote historically as most had been arriving in the US, and the South primarily, from 1700 or so on

small point, but the Ulster Scots/Scots Presbyterians/Scots-Irish primarily landed in Philadelphia, and migrated South, and West. See "The Scotch-Irish A Social History" by James Leyburn.
A few did land in the Carolinas - as did Highland Scots pre Civil War, but the majority came through Philadelphia.

Your major point is spot on, I would think.

As to the book mentioned, in the section of plates (i'm viewing it through Google Books, I can't see any actual plates, if they exist), the author also states:
The Union Light Infantry.......wore trews,or trousers, and a plaid, in Black Watch Tartan, that worn by the British 42nd; his fur bonnet is also based on that worn by the 42nd Highlanders.....This became Co F 1st SC Infantry until 1863 and thereafter Co C 27th SC infantry

[macwilkin]

small point, but the Ulster Scots/Scots Presbyterians/Scots-Irish primarily landed in Philadelphia, and migrated South, and West. See "The Scotch-Irish A Social History" by James Leyburn.
A few did land in the Carolinas - as did Highland Scots pre Civil War, but the majority came through Philadelphia.

Ah, but after landing in Philly, some moved west, and then down the Great Wagon Road along the Appalachians to the backcountry of the Carolinas, so FM is correct.

As to the book mentioned, in the section of plates (i'm viewing it through Google Books, I can't see any actual plates, if they exist), the author also states:
The Union Light Infantry.......wore trews,or trousers, and a plaid, in Black Watch Tartan, that worn by the British 42nd; his fur bonnet is also based on that worn by the 42nd Highlanders.....This became Co F 1st SC Infantry until 1863 and thereafter Co C 27th SC infantry

Yep, that's what I quoted several messages back.

[wvpiper]

Ah, but after landing in Philly, some moved west, and then down the Great Wagon Road along the Appalachians to the backcountry of the Carolinas, so FM is correct.

yes, that's exactly what I said. What FM said is that they landed primarily in the South.
They didn't.

Yep, that's what I quoted several messages back.

Actually, you quoted something different. Your quote came from earlier in the book than mine, and is different
You:
Field quotes an article from an 1870 issue of the Scottish American Journal which describes the uniform of the Union Light Infantry (so-named to honour the Union of England & Scotland in 1707) which wore trews in Government Sett, bonnets and thistle buttons on their coats.
Me:
The Union Light Infantry.......wore trews,or trousers, and a plaid, in Black Watch Tartan, that worn by the British 42nd; his fur bonnet is also based on that worn by the 42nd Highlanders.....This became Co F 1st SC Infantry until 1863 and thereafter Co C 27th SC infantry

[ForresterModern]

yes, that's exactly what I said. What FM said is that they landed primarily in the South.
They didn't.

actually the word I used was "arriving", not landing, and they did indeed arrive primarily in the south, no matter where they first placed foot on american soil. As a wave of immigrants they primarily settled, or arrived, in the south, via whatever route of entrance, and there had their lasting effect on aour american history. Although many or even most may have made land in Philly, they arrived at their final destination, the south, thereafter.

Just clarifying.

Apologies to the rabble for the sidebar. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[wvpiper]

actually the word I used was "arriving", not landing, and they did indeed arrive primarily in the south, no matter where they first placed foot on american soil. As a wave of immigrants they primarily settled, or arrived, in the south, via whatever route of entrance, and there had their lasting effect on aour american history. Although many or even most may have made land in Philly, they arrived at their final destination, the south, thereafter.

Just clarifying.

Apologies to the rabble for the sidebar. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Actually, to put it in it's context you said;

The Scottish ancestry was by that time fairly remote historically as most had been arriving in the US, and the South primarily, from 1700 or so on

So you see, you implied their arrival in the US was primarily in the south and how you worded it could be confusing.
I agree with the basic tenet that by the time of the Civil War, they considered themselves to be Americans and therefore wouldn't have formed ethnic regiments. It may also have had as much to do with the fact that when they arrived in America, from Northern Ireland, they were 3-4 generations removed from Scotland, and were no longer really Scottish.
Of course, as you also probably know, Ulster Scots were Lowland in origin, and didn't wear Highland garb, such as kilts and it's accoutrement.

[DWFII]

Of course, as you also probably know, Ulster Scots were Lowland in origin, and didn't wear Highland garb, such as kilts and it's accoutrement.

I'm a little out of my league here but I can, perhaps, speak to this. My ancestors--MacSuibhne...builders of Castle Sween on Loch Sween in Argyle (the Highlands, no?), and the oldest standing stone castle in Scotland...were, as I understand the term, Ulster Scots.

That said, having been forced off their lands in Argyle right after Bannockburn, they probably did not wear kilts...although from what I have been able to determine even in Ireland the clan structure remained pretty much in place until the 18th (?) century.

PS...one of the oldest (if the Scottish Tartan Authority is to be believed) tartans known is the Ulster which was purportedly found in a bog (somewhere in Ulster?) and supposedly dates to the early 1600's.

[gilmore]

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