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    Paul,

    Am I missing something or isn't there supposed to be a white stripe in the Rose Red?

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    Here is what the Scottish Tartans Authority has to say about the Rose Tartan. International Tartan Index #845 (As Illustrated above)


    The text of the Vestiarium gives the colours as purple and crimson but in the plate they appear as mid blue and scarlet. The Lord Lyon records crimson as red. D.C. Stewart regarded this sett as a 'dress' tartan. ('The Setts..' 1950) James Logan records a 'hunting' version. ('The Scottish Gael' 1831). The following is throught to have come from a letter to Wilsons circa 1822 from a merchant: "Please send me a piece of Rose tartan, and if there isn't one, please send me a different pattern and call it Rose." In other words the clan tartan system just developed. The castle of Kilravock which has been the residence of the Roses for over five centuries is still the seat of the chief. In Lord Lyon's Public Register of all Arms & Bearings in Scotland 36/8 dated 10th November 1946. Count LG1 R14 B3 R2 1/2 B1 R1 B1 R 5 1/2 W1. It is reported that "By the time King George IV came to Edinburgh In 1822, everyone was wanting a clan tartan. One merchant wrote: "Please send me a piece of Rose tartan, and if there isn't one, please send me a different pattern and call it Rose."

    Most scolars today recognize that the Vesitarium Scotiumwas invented by the brothers Sobieski and that it is false.
    That said it is one of the first listings of Tartans.

    There is also the Rose Hunting Tartan, ITI #1226
    The Rose of Kilravock Tartan, ITI #3166 (As shown above) A Personal Tartan
    And the Rose White Dress Tartan ITI # 1227
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForresterModern View Post
    Paul,

    Am I missing something or isn't there supposed to be a white stripe in the Rose Red?
    First one is the red ancient from the count I got. There is a varient of it with a white stripe depending on your source of the count. It's quite confusing.
    Rose modern appears to be the same as the Rose ancient - only with black replacing the blue.

    EDIT - nice find Wizard!
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