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6th November 09, 01:04 PM
#1
It's not the only time I was wrong yesterday, or even disagreed with, but I rate that scalloped cuff, which comes directly from a uniform tunic, as military in origin and feel. Military and tweed do not seem to belong in the same category to my tiny brain, but see above. We haven't even opened the can of worms marked EPAULETTES yet,
oops.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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19th November 09, 06:56 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by MacLowlife
but I rate that scalloped cuff, which comes directly from a uniform tunic, as military in origin and feel. Military and tweed do not seem to belong in the same category to my tiny brain, but see above. We haven't even opened the can of worms marked EPAULETTES yet,
oops.
Ah, I understand now why you consider them incongruous.
I'm certainly not very well versed in historic origins of clothing either, but I think epaulettes have somewhat of a mixed history as well, including civilian, religous and military. For example, see: http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/EMS_EU...d_from_ep.html
Why isn't any of this stuff as simple as it appears at first glance??
Ken
"The best things written about the bagpipe are written on five lines of the great staff" - Pipe Major Donald MacLeod, MBE
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19th November 09, 09:25 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by The Deil's Chiel
Well, sort of, but not necessarily......Early on, military uniforms and their fancy cuffs and rows of buttons on the front were in fact, inspired by civilian dress frock-coats of the 17th and 18th century. What happened was that while the military adopted these details from civilian styles, the civilian styles went on to evolve away from the fancy cuffs and lapels, whereas the military kept them. Then, when the craze for Highland attire returned in the early 19th century, the civilian form of dress copied the military (since the kilt had been preserved solely as part of regimental military uniform during proscription).
That's interesting, I hadn't heard that about the jackets and doublets before.
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