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16th November 09, 09:18 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by Tobus
OK, I'm going to ask a real dumb question. And keep in mind this is coming from a country boy who doesn't have much experience in nice, classy men's attire.
What is the difference between brogues like he just bought and Oxfords?
I have a pair of Wingtip Oxfords like this:
I intend to wear them with my kilt. First, are these appropriate? Second, what makes them Oxfords and the ones in the original post brogues? I see some minor differences between them, of course, but when does one cease to be an Oxford and become a brogue and vice-versa?
In other words, if I saw a pair of shoes in the store, how would I differentiate between an Oxford and a brogue?
The brogues in the photo are perfectly acceptable to wear with your kilt.
The easiest way to tell Oxfords and Brogues apart is by the holes, also known as brogue-ing (Sp?). As I understand it men's lace-up shoes come in three basic styles: Bluchers, Oxfords, and Brogues. (The basic difference between Bluchers and Oxfords has to do with the lacing.) Most "classic" Oxfords will have a toe cap, while Bluchers will have a plain toe (but not always-- it's a fashion thing). Some Oxfords will have very elaborate toe caps, and if these are pierced (ie: have holes punched in them) then they are Brogues. Americans also refer to these as Wing Tip Oxfords-- although the classic "wing tip" lacks the holes found in Brogues. Confused? Don't be. But if you are, go into any shoe store (Johnson & Murphy are a good bet in the USA) and ask the salesman to show you samples of each style.
Last edited by MacMillan of Rathdown; 16th November 09 at 09:24 PM.
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17th November 09, 06:08 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
The brogues in the photo are perfectly acceptable to wear with your kilt.
The easiest way to tell Oxfords and Brogues apart is by the holes, also known as brogue-ing (Sp?). As I understand it men's lace-up shoes come in three basic styles: Bluchers, Oxfords, and Brogues. (The basic difference between Bluchers and Oxfords has to do with the lacing.) Most "classic" Oxfords will have a toe cap, while Bluchers will have a plain toe (but not always-- it's a fashion thing). Some Oxfords will have very elaborate toe caps, and if these are pierced (ie: have holes punched in them) then they are Brogues. Americans also refer to these as Wing Tip Oxfords-- although the classic "wing tip" lacks the holes found in Brogues. Confused? Don't be. But if you are, go into any shoe store (Johnson & Murphy are a good bet in the USA) and ask the salesman to show you samples of each style.
That was an excellent explanation. Thank you. I specifically bought these brogues (the maker calls them Wingtip Oxfords) for wearing not only with my normal office attire but with my kilt as well.
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