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    If you want the dicing, go for it. Just remember what it means.

    My favourites at the web-page you link to must be the royal blue, or with the dices: black with red/white/black dicing.

    To know what the dicing means, here is a cutout from http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml

    The diced (or orange checkered) band around the base of the balmoral indicates loyalty to the House of Hanover, i.e. the King/Queen of England. Highlanders generally do NOT wear the diced Balmoral, but choose to wear the plain dark blue bonnet; many lowlanders may choose wear the diced cap as they are intermingled with English blood and loyalties. Some Lowlanders also will not wear the diced cap. It is a matter of loyalties as some Lowlanders and Highlanders are loyal to the highlands, and would not wear the diced cap, even after all these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbear View Post
    If you want the dicing, go for it. Just remember what it means.

    To know what the dicing means, here is a cutout from http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml

    The diced (or orange checkered) band around the base of the balmoral indicates loyalty to the House of Hanover, i.e. the King/Queen of England. Highlanders generally do NOT wear the diced Balmoral, but choose to wear the plain dark blue bonnet; many lowlanders may choose wear the diced cap as they are intermingled with English blood and loyalties. Some Lowlanders also will not wear the diced cap. It is a matter of loyalties as some Lowlanders and Highlanders are loyal to the highlands, and would not wear the diced cap, even after all these years.

    We've had this discussion a time or three (or hundred!) and there's no real evidence that dicing indicates any such thing. Summarizing that thread, we note that
    a) Several Highland regiments (raised by the Crown) do not wear diced headgear.
    b) In some regiments, dicing or not is a function of rank.
    c) In many pipe bands, drummers wear diced headgear and pipers don't. Why? Because they've always done it that way.
    d) Some people in Scotland do believe that the dicing has meaning, but choice of wearing or not had more to do with whether or not they had grown up wearing diced or undiced headgear.
    e) Some historians believe that diced headgear indicated support for the Jacobites, not the Hanoverians.
    f) At the time of the Jacobite rebellions, allegiance was generally indicated by a cockade, not the presence or absence of dicing.
    g) The real and absolute true meaning of dicing is "Look, the bottom of *my* hat looks like a checkerboard*."

    If you like dicing, wear it. If not, don't. But it has yet to be demonstrated that dicing has any political/historical/national meanings whatsoever. You can find a lot of information on the internet that says otherwise; however, you'll look long and hard to find a site that cites a contemporary source as to meaning.

    *Unless you have three-color dicing in which case I don't know what it means.
    --Scott
    "MacDonald the piper stood up in the pulpit,
    He made the pipes skirl out the music divine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbear View Post
    If you want the dicing, go for it. Just remember what it means.

    My favourites at the web-page you link to must be the royal blue, or with the dices: black with red/white/black dicing.

    To know what the dicing means, here is a cutout from http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml

    The diced (or orange checkered) band around the base of the balmoral indicates loyalty to the House of Hanover, i.e. the King/Queen of England. Highlanders generally do NOT wear the diced Balmoral, but choose to wear the plain dark blue bonnet; many lowlanders may choose wear the diced cap as they are intermingled with English blood and loyalties. Some Lowlanders also will not wear the diced cap. It is a matter of loyalties as some Lowlanders and Highlanders are loyal to the highlands, and would not wear the diced cap, even after all these years.
    The auld myth just won't die. While this legend is oft-repeated, I've yet to see any reliable source documenting this story.

    haukehaien's post is spot-on.

    T.

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