Boy Scout style Cap Badges

**Standard** · 10th February 10, 08:01 PM

So do any of you lads out there have a balmoral cap badge in a Boy Scout style? I recently purchased the BSA hat pin (http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/...v=3&item=50150) but it seems to my eye to be too small to be an effective cap badge for a balmoral. Have any of you you Eagles out there come across anything in that line that would work for a cap badge?

**rocscotjoe** · 10th February 10, 08:09 PM

When I was in Scouts there were rank pins you could move from uniform to uniform, the First Class Rank pin probably has the size you're looking for. It would be a brass/gold finish fleur de lis with the eagle over it and the be prepared scroll with a small wire knot at the bottom...

Good luck!

**rocscotjoe** · 10th February 10, 08:13 PM

http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/...=&lv=3&item=17

**Standard** · 11th February 10, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by rocscotjoe

http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/...=&lv=3&item=17

That might work, but I'm not sure how the gold coloured pin would look as compared to silver. To me the gold would be too "showy".

As for the rank pins, it is correct that only the youth should wear those, with the sole exception of the rank of Eagle Scout.

My balmoral has a cockade of black (black balmoral) so I don't think that a rosette would look right without first removing the cockade.

Designing a cap badge and getting it approved would be a long task, but one which might be worth looking into. I'll have to do some poking around on this subject. Getting anything pushed through National in the way of uniform changes will be a daunting task to say the least.

**Mark Keeney** · 11th February 10, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Standard

That might work, but I'm not sure how the gold coloured pin would look as compared to silver. To me the gold would be too "showy".

As for the rank pins, it is correct that only the youth should wear those, with the sole exception of the rank of Eagle Scout.

My balmoral has a cockade of black (black balmoral) so I don't think that a rosette would look right without first removing the cockade.

Designing a cap badge and getting it approved would be a long task, but one which might be worth looking into. I'll have to do some poking around on this subject. Getting anything pushed through National in the way of uniform changes will be a daunting task to say the least.

Designing and wearing a patrol hat badge/pin would be fine. But the patrol (leader patrol) would need to be uniform in this.

**Standard** · 11th February 10, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Keeney

Designing and wearing a patrol hat badge/pin would be fine. But the patrol (leader patrol) would need to be uniform in this.

Yes, but being a Venture Crew we have a pretty broad range of what we can adopt as our uniform. The restriction being, of course, the in ability to add or delete from the official uniform. But, lets not delve too deeply into this subject as it has been hashed over quite extensively in other threads.

As for the designing of a cap badge as a patrol badge I think that would work as a legitimate option.

**Mark Keeney** · 11th February 10, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by rocscotjoe

When I was in Scouts there were rank pins you could move from uniform to uniform, the First Class Rank pin probably has the size you're looking for. It would be a brass/gold finish fleur de lis with the eagle over it and the be prepared scroll with a small wire knot at the bottom...

Good luck!

Rank pins should only be worn by boys of that rank. This is so adults don't overshadow the boys. Adults should only wear an Eagle pin if they earned it as a boy.

The hat pin or any universal pin should be used instead.

**longhuntr74** · 10th February 10, 08:39 PM

That's funny...I'm planning on wearing that very pin on my kilt this saturday to a Boy Scout sponsored fundraiser!!!

**cavscout** · 10th February 10, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Standard

So do any of you lads out there have a balmoral cap badge in a Boy Scout style? I recently purchased the BSA hat pin but it seems to my eye to be too small to be an effective cap badge for a balmoral. Have any of you you Eagles out there come across anything in that line that would work for a cap badge?

I have the same pin intended for the same purpose. While it is a little on the small side (about 3/4" smaller than a clan badge), you could add a cockade of some sort or a rosette to it.

http://www.just2tailors.com/?category=Accessories

**gordontaos** · 11th February 10, 12:43 AM

Does any body know what size this "hat pin" is?
http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=GIFTS&C 3=PINS&C4=&LV=3&item=50150&prodid=50150^8^01RTL&