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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBean View Post
    I find the hat discussion most interesting, but let me digress.

    If in an imaginary world, the kilt existed when most Scots came to the New Worlds, and if Highland culture had survived the struggles of frontier life in a recognizable fashion, and if adaptations to Traditional Highland Dress were made to suit the New World climate, would they then be considered variant adaptations of Traditional Highland Dress? I rather think they might, as long as we rule out the wild costuming. Am I off topic?

    Perhaps we would not wear jackets in hot weather. Perhaps we would have retained and adapted the mocasin-like footwear of the Highlands of yore. But what about hats (and dark glasses), both of which are useful adaptations to the much increased sunlight in the New World? Don't we need a new Highland wear hat for the weather in the Americas?

    Let's start with the deerstalker; others have said it would serve. Can someone post pictures of Highland Dress with a "fore and aft" or deerstalker? I can't find any.

    Failing that, I haven't been convinced that the Balmoral or Glengarry serve well, though the New Worlds have tried to make them work. One, it seems that they are either out-of-place or over-used as "Traditional Highland Dress". Two, they don't really serve as weather protection. I realize the following cap is considered paramillitary, but wonder if it isn't one of the more practical adapations while in the field? If not this, then what? Are we not to make adaptations for time and place appropriate for the New Worlds?

    I don't think anyone here, even the most traditional of traditional thinkers have ever said that one could not adapt Highland attire to suit the weather conditions and you are quite correct in thinking that there are sometimes far better options than traditional Highland Scots head wear. Would that make the result traditional? Well no it would not, but so what. If the adaptation works then that is precisely what any sensible Scot would do in the circumstances.

    On the hat topic I have long extolled the virtues of the Panama as perfect hot weather attire with the kilt . The Tilly hat and the Australian "slouch" hat also spring to mind. I venture to suggest that they may be a better option than the one you suggest. Each to their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I don't think anyone here, even the most traditional of traditional thinkers have ever said that one could not adapt Highland attire to suit the weather conditions and you are quite correct in thinking that there are sometimes far better options than traditional Highland Scots head wear. Would that make the result traditional? Well no it would not, but so what. If the adaptation works then that is precisely what any sensible Scot would do in the circumstances.

    On the hat topic I have long extolled the virtues of the Panama as perfect hot weather attire with the kilt . The Tilly hat and the Australian "slouch" hat also spring to mind. I venture to suggest that they may be a better option than the one you suggest. Each to there own.
    The Highland regiments certainly did. Witness the Jocks wearing ANZAC style slouch hats in the Boer War.

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    LL Bean in the States sells a super hat they call, I think, Moose River. Good for both sun and rain protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    The Highland regiments certainly did. Witness the Jocks wearing ANZAC style slouch hats in the Boer War.

    T.
    You beat me to it Todd!

    The Highland Light Infantry on the march in the Boer War
    (The Battle of Magersfontein, 11 Dec 1899):



    Post-2nd Boer War image of Captain Arnold Statham Milne, Transvaal Scottish Volunteers, wearing the Scottish Horse-style slouch hat in 1906:

    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I don't think anyone here, even the most traditional of traditional thinkers have ever said that one could not adapt Highland attire to suit the weather conditions and you are quite correct in thinking that there are sometimes far better options than traditional Highland Scots head wear. Would that make the result traditional? Well no it would not, but so what. If the adaptation works then that is precisely what any sensible Scot would do in the circumstances.
    Just for the fun of it I just had to toss the following pictures in (besides it'll make Jamie happy ith

    Cheers!


    2nd (Angus) Volunteer Bn - So Africa 1900:



    3rd (Dundee Highland) Volunteer Bn - So Africa 1900:

    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    On the hat topic I have long extolled the virtues of the Panama as perfect hot weather attire with the kilt . The Tilly hat and the Australian "slouch" hat also spring to mind. I venture to suggest that they may be a better option than the one you suggest. Each to their own.
    Jock,

    I like the way you think! Last year I came into possession of a Panama hat that my grandfather had given his father-in-law about 60 years ago. My grandfather was in government service in the Far East and had purchased it in manila for $20.00. Apparently my great grandfather Anderson never wore this hat because until last year it resided in a large bamboo tube, never having been blocked or having a band or ribbon applied.

    My sister, who lives in LA has a friend who wear Panamas a lot (they're great in Southern California) and he sent it to Brent Black for blocking. It's in the Optimo style (the one with a ridge down the middle) which was a favorite in the British colonial service. Some would call it a Charlie Chan hat. It has a 3 3/8" brim and I have to say it looks pretty good on me. The nice thing is that a good Panama hat looks fine with almost any level of hot weather dress - from ultra casual to very formal. As an added bonus, Mr. Black said that if he had bought a blank of that quality from Montecristi (he's one of the few who deals directly with the weavers there) he'd have to charge $4600.00 for it. It has too much sentimental value for me to ever sell it, but it's nice to know it's of the highest quality.

    Now I know it will also work just fine with a kilt! What more could I ask for?

    regards,

    Brian

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