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7th September 10, 12:41 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by weeknee
I hesitate to even ask and stir the pot......but what is the difference between a "cheap" kilt and a "real" kilt??
Really the only thing that could differentiate "cheap" vs "real" would be that a REAL kilt is made out of tartan and "cheap" kilts are made out of PV, acrylic wool, or poly cotton blend. Because when you get down to it, material that costs 60 GBP a yard vs maybe 10 USD a yard (of course those cost are a generalization) that right there eats up a major portion of what you pay for a quality REAL kilt.
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7th September 10, 01:03 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by SmokinScotsman
Really the only thing that could differentiate "cheap" vs "real" would be that a REAL kilt is made out of tartan and "cheap" kilts are made out of PV, acrylic wool, or poly cotton blend. Because when you get down to it, material that costs 60 GBP a yard vs maybe 10 USD a yard (of course those cost are a generalization) that right there eats up a major portion of what you pay for a quality REAL kilt.
Labour costs are not inconsiderable either.
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7th September 10, 01:07 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Labour costs are not inconsiderable either.
Well said.
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7th September 10, 02:47 AM
#4
I think the best example of where a cheap kilt has its uses is today when i will be watching the Scotland national football team in some Glasgow hostelry.
the weather outside is wet, blowy and totally miserable, typical Scottish weather.
Would you wear a garment costing several hundred pounds in this weather? i'll get soaked sometime today that's for sure, I'll be in a crowded pub with lots of football mad Scotsmen who later on will be the worst for wear thru drink (including myself). Nope, the cheap kilt is the better option, if at worst it gets wasted then I'll just throw it away and buy another one (that is when I get home not in the pub)
No way would I wear one of my more costly kilts tonight.
So a market certainly in Scotland has been created which is booming in almost every major town and city in Scotland, men want to wear kilts but at times the cost prohibits them from doing so
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8th September 10, 03:33 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Jimmy
I think the best example of where a cheap kilt has its uses is today when i will be watching the Scotland national football team in some Glasgow hostelry.
the weather outside is wet, blowy and totally miserable, typical Scottish weather.
Would you wear a garment costing several hundred pounds in this weather? i'll get soaked sometime today that's for sure, I'll be in a crowded pub with lots of football mad Scotsmen who later on will be the worst for wear thru drink (including myself). Nope, the cheap kilt is the better option, if at worst it gets wasted then I'll just throw it away and buy another one (that is when I get home not in the pub)
No way would I wear one of my more costly kilts tonight.
So a market certainly in Scotland has been created which is booming in almost every major town and city in Scotland, men want to wear kilts but at times the cost prohibits them from doing so
My dad got his "real" kilt teflon coated for this very reason. He can literally pour a pint down the front of it and it doesn't leave a mark- much to the amusement of party-goers. But he is of the somewhat kilt-snob type who wouldn't be seen dead in one of the £20 fake tartan tat shop kilts, regardless of weather/sobriety.
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7th September 10, 03:31 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by SmokinScotsman
Really the only thing that could differentiate "cheap" vs "real" would be that a REAL kilt is made out of tartan and "cheap" kilts are made out of PV, acrylic wool, or poly cotton blend. Because when you get down to it, material that costs 60 GBP a yard vs maybe 10 USD a yard (of course those cost are a generalization) that right there eats up a major portion of what you pay for a quality REAL kilt.
I think it's easy to get a bit too precious about what a KILT is. Let's not forget where the kilt came from.
It's traditionally made of wool because that's all that was available.
It's traditionally made by hand because that's all they had.
It's traditionally made heavy to keep it's owner warm, because it was his main article of clothing. According to several old texts it was also his bed when he was traveling out in the open.
If we really want to fanny about we might as well say that it isn't a traditional kilt unless it's made from wool sheared with a manual hand shear...
Only from sheep that have pastured their whole lives in the Highlands...
Spun by hand and dyed using native Highland plants for vegetable dyes.
Woven on a foot powered loom BY a Highlander...
And worn by a Highland Man.
Now, of course, all of this is silly. We know that the mills in the Lowlands and England have been producing tartans since the 1800's.
We also know that Prince Albert and Queen Victoria are partially responsible for the Kilt's and the Tartan's return to popularity. Neither of them was particularly Scottish (never-mind Highlanders).
The kilt has gone through many 'shifts' over time. From great kilt to little kilt to box pleat to knife pleat. Woven at home to mill woven and machine spun.
Worn by a few, banned, reborn, and now worn by many world wide.
Let's not stop a kilt from being a kilt just because we're not crazy about the fabric it's made from.
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Last edited by artificer; 7th September 10 at 03:55 AM.
Reason: gramur adn speelun :D
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7th September 10, 03:53 AM
#7
artificer I agree with you on that note. I own tartan, cotton twill, PV, and acrylic wool. They all have their place. I was merely giving the easiest answer to the question weeknee asked.
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7th September 10, 04:01 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by SmokinScotsman
Really the only thing that could differentiate "cheap" vs "real" would be that a REAL kilt is made out of tartan and "cheap" kilts are made out of PV, acrylic wool, or poly cotton blend. Because when you get down to it, material that costs 60 GBP a yard vs maybe 10 USD a yard (of course those cost are a generalization) that right there eats up a major portion of what you pay for a quality REAL kilt.
So, the cost of the material is what makes a "real " kilt ?
No disrespect, just tryin to get a handel on this thing
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7th September 10, 04:24 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by weeknee
So, the cost of the material is what makes a "real " kilt ?
No disrespect, just tryin to get a handel on this thing
Not totaly, how its made also factors in an example would be two shops in Edinburgh (or anywhere else in the world)
Shop A has kilts for £20
Shop B has kilts for £200
If you buy one of each and check one against the other kilt B will feel sturdier be made of better quality of materials and probaly heavier. Kilt A on the other hand will probaly be lighter, not feel so well put togeather and the materials might not be up to the same standard even if they are both meant to be the same Material (PV, Wool, cotton etc)
It is difficult to explain the best way is to get both and check for yourself
Ofcourse thats just my opinion.
Jordan
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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