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2nd October 10, 11:37 AM
#11
Sounds like His Royal Highness should acquire a sgian don't.
Animo non astutia
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2nd October 10, 02:11 PM
#12
The legal category is "British citizen" as per my passport renewed last March.
Since I do not intend to use a knife in combat I always wear a plastic dummy so as to avoid the remote possibility of harassment; then I can ask any over zealous law-enforcement officer who inquires about it to stab me with it if he wants and to take it to forensics for examination. : ) I have never had any problem, in any part of the UK.
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2nd October 10, 02:32 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by Ruanaidh
And the new Prime Minister is a Cameron! Honestly though, I think it depends on how the individual police officer interpretates it. I haven't had a problem - yet. As a precaution I have glued the blade into the sheath and if questioned I'll just say it's a dummy sgian dhu - "You try and unsheath it!"
The Kilt is my delight !
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3rd October 10, 02:45 AM
#14
As a regular wearer of full Scottish attire in London, I asked the Police what the ruling was for wearing my sgian dubh. They said as long as I was in full National dress, that it was ok. I travel through some rather risky areas in north London and even though police have been scanning at tube stations through an arch, they have never asked me to go through, even though they have clearly seen me wearing my sgian dubh in my sock. However I do tend to wear a fake unless I am in full formal Argyll, Crail or Prince Charlie.
Schiehallion kilted and true
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6th October 10, 10:46 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by McFarkus
Sounds like His Royal Highness should acquire a sgian don't.
HA HA!!
Well said. I am choosing to temper my comments so that I don't get banned. However, in this age of the Nanny state, this does not surprise me one bit.
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7th October 10, 12:48 AM
#16
Oh man! The comments below that article! Arguing online is amazing. 
Compared to the rest of the internets, XMTS is a bastion of civility! Actually, that's not even close to a fair comparison...
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8th October 10, 03:05 AM
#17
Oooops! sorry Lads and Lassies I double posted!
Last edited by Foxgun Tom; 8th October 10 at 03:19 AM.
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8th October 10, 03:12 AM
#18
This whole issue is a nonsense! they're are numerous exemptions in law throughout the UK for carrying knive's, one is cultural ie: the wearing of a sgian dubh as part of national dress, religous ie: a member of th Sikh community carrying a karpa as a matter of religous observance and also another catagory of carrying a knife for good reason ie: a tradesman/journeyman or sportsman (fishing/hunting) who uses knive's in conjunction with work!
A short story to illustrate! I attented a game fair in England, a police officer objected to my fox-mask sporran and told me if anyone else found it offensive he would charge me with a criminal offence under Englands public order acts, He also intimated that my carrying of a Dirk and Sgean Dubh was also illegal under the aforementioned acts?
I pointed out the exemptions but! he was determined to carry on with his ludicrus actions, I had to supply my name and address, as that a legal requirement when asked for by the police here in the UK
I then asked the officer concerned for his personal details including full name, his senior officer on duty's name at the event and the name and contact details of his Chief Constable. I then told the officer in front of the assembled crowd that I found his behaviour deeply offensive and demeaning to me a a Scot for wearing my full national dress as I'm entitled to do anywhere in the UK
I also made it clear that I would seek legal advice, sue him personally, his superior officer on duty, the Chief Constable, and the local police board in respect of racial harrasment and discrimination!, his senior officer appeared took the constable aside to ask what the sitation was! as the story enfolded I saw the duty inspector;s face go from a dull ashen grey to marble white and then red with rage and embarrasment! He instructed his officer to apologise immediatley for any distress caused? he himself apologised on behalf of his force and the Chief Constable and would I accept and leave it at that? I replied no! I wanted a full written apology from the Chief Constable as a record that the incident happened, was recorded and an assurance under no circumstances would it happen again!
Guess what??recieved a full apolgy!!
Tom
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8th October 10, 04:45 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by kilted scholar
The legal category is "British citizen" as per my passport renewed last March.
Since I do not intend to use a knife in combat I always wear a plastic dummy so as to avoid the remote possibility of harassment; then I can ask any over zealous law-enforcement officer who inquires about it to stab me with it if he wants and to take it to forensics for examination. : ) I have never had any problem, in any part of the UK.
'Citizens' can carry a sgian dubh, 'subjects' cannot?
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8th October 10, 04:48 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom
This whole issue is a nonsense! they're are numerous exemptions in law throughout the UK for carrying knive's, one is cultural ie: the wearing of a sgian dubh as part of national dress, religous ie: a member of th Sikh community carrying a karpa as a matter of religous observance and also another catagory of carrying a knife for good reason ie: a tradesman/journeyman or sportsman (fishing/hunting) who uses knive's in conjunction with work!
A short story to illustrate! I attented a game fair in England, a police officer objected to my fox-mask sporran and told me if anyone else found it offensive he would charge me with a criminal offence under Englands public order acts, He also intimated that my carrying of a Dirk and Sgean Dubh was also illegal under the aforementioned acts?
I pointed out the exemptions but! he was determined to carry on with his ludicrus actions, I had to supply my name and address, as that a legal requirement when asked for by the police here in the UK
I then asked the officer concerned for his personal details including full name, his senior officer on duty's name at the event and the name and contact details of his Chief Constable. I then told the officer in front of the assembled crowd that I found his behaviour deeply offensive and demeaning to me a a Scot for wearing my full national dress as I'm entitled to do anywhere in the UK
I also made it clear that I would seek legal advice, sue him personally, his superior officer on duty, the Chief Constable, and the local police board in respect of racial harrasment and discrimination!, his senior officer appeared took the constable aside to ask what the sitation was! as the story enfolded I saw the duty inspector;s face go from a dull ashen grey to marble white and then red with rage and embarrasment! He instructed his officer to apologise immediatley for any distress caused? he himself apologised on behalf of his force and the Chief Constable and would I accept and leave it at that? I replied no! I wanted a full written apology from the Chief Constable as a record that the incident happened, was recorded and an assurance under no circumstances would it happen again!
Guess what??recieved a full apolgy!!
Tom
And this all happened at a game fair? I fear for the youth of Britain.
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