Couple of things.

ONE: The "Old Guard" never really existed, people have come and gone since day one. I note that Cajunscot and I are still around, both of us are good friends with Panache, and both of us "arrived" on X marks before Panache did. I only "arrived" a couple of months before, and really "how long have you been here" is pretty unimportant, but there you go. I could name others who have been here longer. Rocky from USA Kilts comes to mind, for example.

TWO: Guys...the saltire is a piece of pine (probably) cut out on a bandsaw, with some bits and bobs glue'd to it, and painted in glossy colors. It is not a high-dollar item.

You all can talk and debate and carry on, here on the online forum and the truth is that nothing will happen until SOMEONE just sets down in their garage, or at their sewing machine, or at their leatherwork table, and just MAKES something. It had better not cost a lot of money or time, because you never know when it's going to be lost in the mail, or it's going to go to some nutter who decides that he likes it and is going to display it on his mantle and then disappears from the forum.

So talk and debate until the cows come home. Nothing is going to happen until someone does what Panache did.....just sits down and MAKES something and gets the ball rolling.