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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
    Wow!! Those 2 sporrans he has pictures of are just sexy!! Thanks for that link! I need a buckler for the targe that I'm reproducing and he has just the thing!!
    Those three-pouch sporrans ARE very cool! I've been meaning to write to him to get the size difference between the large and small versions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    Those three-pouch sporrans ARE very cool!
    Indeed they are! My own practice has been to carry a separate small leather drawstring pouch as a "siller poke" in my sporran to keep my money separate from other items and easy to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Seago View Post
    Indeed they are! My own practice has been to carry a separate small leather drawstring pouch as a "siller poke" in my sporran to keep my money separate from other items and easy to find.
    Personally, I use an Iron Maiden wallet for that. I save the drawstring pouch for my mess kit, which is 3 sizes of carved wooden spoon, and my flint and striker.
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    Nice sporrans sir thanks for posting the link, I have been thinking about getting a new one myself for this years events.

    Can you also recommend other supplies for us first time Jacobite Reenactors.

    Thanks..

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    I recently made a Jacobite Ball Costume. I am always working on various things and never like to do anything poorly. Any thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor View Post
    I recently made a Jacobite Ball Costume. I am always working on various things and never like to do anything poorly. Any thoughts?

    If you're going for the 1745 look, there are a couple of problems here:
    1.) the sporran with long goat or horse hair is a 19th C. design. Nothing like that was worn pre-1750.
    2.) looks like a modern, square belt buckle plate.
    3.) odd plaid set-up! You want to belt it on, and let the upper portion hang down. Then, put on waistcoat, jacket, sword-belt, etc. Last step: pin the hanging portion of the plaid to the left shoulder in back, without drawing across the front of your body.
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    Have you worn the belted plaid much?

    I am just wondering because I have yet to get it to work when it is simply pinned to the jacket. The weight drags the jacket into a horrible pulled position.

    I did put everything together in that order (saving the dirk belt which I put on after pinning the plaid.)

    And since I gave away my Rob Roy sporran I was left with that or a more modern design.

    Thanks for the comments though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor View Post
    Have you worn the belted plaid much?

    I am just wondering because I have yet to get it to work when it is simply pinned to the jacket. The weight drags the jacket into a horrible pulled position.

    I did put everything together in that order (saving the dirk belt which I put on after pinning the plaid.)

    And since I gave away my Rob Roy sporran I was left with that or a more modern design.

    Thanks for the comments though.
    Well you either want help or you dont.

    Woodsheal has indeed worn the belted plaid a great deal. I have to laugh a little at this because I think its fairly clear you havent even read the first post of this entire thread.

    I would even say Woodsheal is being exceptionally gentle with his suggestions to you. If you want to know what is not historically accurate about your kit the answer would be everything. That is the blunt honest answer.

    So the question is do you really want to know? Can you take the criticism? Plenty here would be all to ready willing and able to help you make an authentic 1740's Scottish Highland kit together.

    Sorry if you think me rude but that is just the cold hard truth of the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Cogle View Post
    Well you either want help or you dont.

    Woodsheal has indeed worn the belted plaid a great deal. I have to laugh a little at this because I think its fairly clear you havent even read the first post of this entire thread.

    I would even say Woodsheal is being exceptionally gentle with his suggestions to you. If you want to know what is not historically accurate about your kit the answer would be everything. That is the blunt honest answer.

    So the question is do you really want to know? Can you take the criticism? Plenty here would be all to ready willing and able to help you make an authentic 1740's Scottish Highland kit together.

    Sorry if you think me rude but that is just the cold hard truth of the matter.





    Being a little harsh, are we? Looks to me like most of the garb is correct, barring a few little details, just put on incorrectly. I mean, in comparison to Woodsheal... Gabe, if you want to come to Denver next weekend, I can teach you how to put a great kilt on correctly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Cogle View Post
    Well you either want help or you dont.

    Woodsheal has indeed worn the belted plaid a great deal. I have to laugh a little at this because I think its fairly clear you havent even read the first post of this entire thread.

    I would even say Woodsheal is being exceptionally gentle with his suggestions to you. If you want to know what is not historically accurate about your kit the answer would be everything. That is the blunt honest answer.

    So the question is do you really want to know? Can you take the criticism? Plenty here would be all to ready willing and able to help you make an authentic 1740's Scottish Highland kit together.

    Sorry if you think me rude but that is just the cold hard truth of the matter.
    My tone was confusing... I honestly want to know how it is possible to make the belted plaid practical when pinned from behind only and I do want to know why of course that is THE only way. (is it even possible that a Highlander would dare cross a bit of the plaid in front?) (am I being a heretic to suggest it or even ask or was your tone misread as well?)

    Horror of all Horrors! Woodsheal himself with the plaid crossed in front.



    I can take anything that comes my way. As stated previously my kit was thrown together as a costume. I enjoyed the look and am now interested in cleaning it up a bit.

    I have read the entire thread and seen many photos of the plaid worn as he suggested I'm simply wondering if there's some secret to keeping it from ripping the coat of your back. My plaid was made from just over 4 yards of cloth woven in Wilson's shades. (yes I know they're post proscription )

    Do you have any remarks on the coat (beyond dismissing it out of hand?)

    And yes I know my knitted hose should be cloth cadadh but I was sewing the buttons on my coat on the way there and didn't have time so and old pair of diced were the closest I came.

    I'm not a daft unlearned newbie please don't treat me like one. Most of what you are saying is what I expected it's just the tone is awfully condescending.

    Thanks Woodsheal, for the notes.

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