Lifted for the first time

**flairball** · 30th April 07, 09:04 AM

This question baffles me too. I couldn't care less if one chooses to wear an undergarment or not, whether trousered, or kilted. Ussually if asked by another man with a concerned expression I will ask why they feel the need to know, and then tell them they're not my type anyway. A lady is ussually told that if a lady need to ask she isn't much of a lady.

**Riverkilt** · 30th April 07, 09:05 AM

Well handled for sure.

My only kilt lift was a guy too...was in the open and I just sort of spun out of it...he was college age and VERY drunk...and it was a Pride Festival.

Don't think you could have spun out of it at a crowded bar...

One of my favorite lines from the movie "Never Get Out of the Boat" could apply if one turned to the offender and say, "You're not in prison anymore. You could get a girlfriend."

Ron

**Livingston** · 30th April 07, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

One of my favorite lines from the movie "Never Get Out of the Boat" could apply if one turned to the offender and say, "You're not in prison anymore. You could get a girlfriend."

Ron

I'll have to remember that one, Ron.

It has only happened to me once. A quick left fist swung at the back edge of my pleats caught the hand of a former co-worker. The look on his face was priceless, considering he stood about 8-10" taller than me.

**Dirk Skene** · 30th April 07, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

...."You're not in prison anymore. You could get a girlfriend."....

I like that

**thescot** · 30th April 07, 11:09 AM

I think you did a good job handling the prick. I've relayed elsewhere my response to a fellow in a cruise ship when he asked me what I wore underneath. I simple replied, "Your wife's lipstick."

On the other hand, lassies are usually treated better for obvious reasons.

I don't encourage it, but I wouldn't likely flatten one if she insited on a peek!

One big reason for not allowing such behavior is the very preservation of the mystique. I like to keep 'em guessing. Aside from the fact that asking or looking is plain bad manners.

**elitekiltedcommando** · 30th April 07, 09:13 AM

Should've kicked him in the spleen...

**McClef** · 30th April 07, 09:36 AM

Rather than resort to the double standard as to the sex of the lifter affecting the strength of one's reaction one should surely see any lifting without permission by whomsoever as something to be discouraged.

The mystique and curiosity of the kilt go beyond orientation so one shouldn't automatically cast aspersions or make judgements about that aspect of the person doing it. I would agree with Kilted Christian.

Giving them plenty of verbal reaction normally is enough to do the trick.

**Mark Keeney** · 30th April 07, 10:26 AM

We as kilties don't always help matters. How many times have you seen pics of wedding parties lifting their own kilts. We (some of us) encourage the mystique of what is worn under the kilt for the attention it gives us.

Personally I have never lifted for anyone except my wife (one of the reasons she likes the kilt) and I enjoy the attention it brings me.

**davedove** · 30th April 07, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Keney

We as kilties don't always help matters. How many times have you seen pics of wedding parties lifting their own kilts. We (some of us) encourage the mystique of what is worn under the kilt for the attention it gives us.

Even in that situation though, the person is lifting their own kilt. Even if it's in very bad taste, it's still their decision. I still can't get over the audacity of those who would lift someone's kilt without even asking.

**KiltedBill** · 30th April 07, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Keney

We as kilties don't always help matters. How many times have you seen pics of wedding parties lifting their own kilts. We (some of us) encourage the mystique of what is worn under the kilt for the attention it gives us.

Please correct me if I'm off-base, but I'd like to see if I can turn this around:

I would say that this is like saying, "Because I've seen SOME people who wear PANTS who also "moon" in public (drop their pants to show their buttocks), I should be able to ask ANYONE who wears pants as to their underwear preferences."

Somehow, when I change the words, it doesn't make as strong an argument.

However, I do agree with Mark. I believe that the problem with voluntary kilt-lifting at weddings may be due to the fact that the majority of these people are not full- or part-time kilt-wearers, and are wearing the kilt for one day of their life for the purpose of the wedding, and therefore, do not respect it as a normal manner of dress and instead view it as a costume.