First brogues

[skauwt]

thanks
do you know when i think on it this is the first pair of shoes Ive owned since i started attending secondary school way back in 1990

i think one of the reasons brogues are becoming more popular again is mainly due to the use you can out a pair your not tied down to just wearing them kilted you also have the use of them when wearing other styles of clothing and the lifespan of a good pair ...well that was my biggest reason for buying them also as much as i like the lace look round the hose ....sometimes its best trying to look good in what the pound permits rather than what the overdraft denies

if i had enough pennies saved id love to own a pair of buckle brogues something about the style of them that for does it for me

[Chas]

Skauwt, I have just bought a pair from this eBay seller:

mhgeoffreyandco

He is a Pakistani seller, but this is the best price I have ever seen - £29.99 plus £9.00 P&P. You will have to search the whole of the eBay shop to find them. They look a bit scruffy at first, but respond to a good brushing and polishing. Even if I only wear them once a year I think they are worth the price. I am more than pleased with mine.

Regards

Chas

[skauwt]

Skauwt, I have just bought a pair from this eBay seller:
mhgeoffreyandco

He is a Pakistani seller, but this is the best price I have ever seen - £29.99 plus £9.00 P&P. You will have to search the whole of the eBay shop to find them. They look a bit scruffy at first, but respond to a good brushing and polishing. Even if I only wear them once a year I think they are worth the price. I am more than pleased with mine.

Regards

Chas

funnily enough Chas Ive been watching that seller for sometime now ...id actually found him searching for the old style leather football`s
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORIGINAL-LEATH...item20aa69acb5
i was going to get one of those footballs for my dad but i wasn't sure of he`d see it as a insult or not as i think those style are more my grandfathers era
i was unsure of the quality of those buckle shoes but for the price i think thats my next set of shoes sorted for Christmas

[Tobus]

My wife gave me a very nice pair of brown Oxfords for my birthday, but I am still looking for a pair of brown brogues.

OK, I'm going to ask a real dumb question. And keep in mind this is coming from a country boy who doesn't have much experience in nice, classy men's attire.

What is the difference between brogues like he just bought and Oxfords?

I have a pair of Wingtip Oxfords like this:



I intend to wear them with my kilt. First, are these appropriate? Second, what makes them Oxfords and the ones in the original post brogues? I see some minor differences between them, of course, but when does one cease to be an Oxford and become a brogue and vice-versa?

In other words, if I saw a pair of shoes in the store, how would I differentiate between an Oxford and a brogue?

[Chas]

OK, I'm going to ask a real dumb question. And keep in mind this is coming from a country boy who doesn't have much experience in nice, classy men's attire.

What is the difference between brogues like he just bought and Oxfords?

I have a pair of Wingtip Oxfords like this:



I intend to wear them with my kilt. First, are these appropriate? Second, what makes them Oxfords and the ones in the original post brogues? I see some minor differences between them, of course, but when does one cease to be an Oxford and become a brogue and vice-versa?

In other words, if I saw a pair of shoes in the store, how would I differentiate between an Oxford and a brogue?

Hi Tobus,

This is what I would call an Oxford toecap -



Regards

Chas

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

OK, I'm going to ask a real dumb question. And keep in mind this is coming from a country boy who doesn't have much experience in nice, classy men's attire.

What is the difference between brogues like he just bought and Oxfords?

I have a pair of Wingtip Oxfords like this:



I intend to wear them with my kilt. First, are these appropriate? Second, what makes them Oxfords and the ones in the original post brogues? I see some minor differences between them, of course, but when does one cease to be an Oxford and become a brogue and vice-versa?

In other words, if I saw a pair of shoes in the store, how would I differentiate between an Oxford and a brogue?

The brogues in the photo are perfectly acceptable to wear with your kilt.

The easiest way to tell Oxfords and Brogues apart is by the holes, also known as brogue-ing (Sp?). As I understand it men's lace-up shoes come in three basic styles: Bluchers, Oxfords, and Brogues. (The basic difference between Bluchers and Oxfords has to do with the lacing.) Most "classic" Oxfords will have a toe cap, while Bluchers will have a plain toe (but not always-- it's a fashion thing). Some Oxfords will have very elaborate toe caps, and if these are pierced (ie: have holes punched in them) then they are Brogues. Americans also refer to these as Wing Tip Oxfords-- although the classic "wing tip" lacks the holes found in Brogues. Confused? Don't be. But if you are, go into any shoe store (Johnson & Murphy are a good bet in the USA) and ask the salesman to show you samples of each style.

[Tobus]

The brogues in the photo are perfectly acceptable to wear with your kilt.

The easiest way to tell Oxfords and Brogues apart is by the holes, also known as brogue-ing (Sp?). As I understand it men's lace-up shoes come in three basic styles: Bluchers, Oxfords, and Brogues. (The basic difference between Bluchers and Oxfords has to do with the lacing.) Most "classic" Oxfords will have a toe cap, while Bluchers will have a plain toe (but not always-- it's a fashion thing). Some Oxfords will have very elaborate toe caps, and if these are pierced (ie: have holes punched in them) then they are Brogues. Americans also refer to these as Wing Tip Oxfords-- although the classic "wing tip" lacks the holes found in Brogues. Confused? Don't be. But if you are, go into any shoe store (Johnson & Murphy are a good bet in the USA) and ask the salesman to show you samples of each style.

That was an excellent explanation. Thank you. I specifically bought these brogues (the maker calls them Wingtip Oxfords) for wearing not only with my normal office attire but with my kilt as well.

[andyfg]

That is a great find. I had some identical brogues years ago. Sadly long gone!

[Paul]

Pretty nice!
I've got a couple of pairs of brogues now. Got one pair on ebay for £4.50 and they're great! I also just won a wool kilt in great condition on ebay for £4.80!

[Bugbear]

Be forewarned, the American stores often lable and sell Bluchers as Oxfords.