Fake Scots Titles

[Deil the Yin]

Well put, Alex. Thanks.

Regards,
Wesley

We have at least three Lairds of Lochaber and one Lady of Lochaber who are members of this forum. I am sure they are intelligent people who are aware that the little ownership certificate which they bought is no more than a souvenir of their visit to Scotland and their use of a title in their signature here is a little piece of harmless fun. Though it seems like easy money for the people who market this sort of thing.
What does annoy me though is posers who make totally false claims of nobility and who wear feathers at Scottish gatherings to which they are not entitled.
This new website should afford a good way of checking out the credentials of some of the suspects.

[Tartan Tess]

One brand of Scotch also gives out "Land" if you register with them.

[macwilkin]

One brand of Scotch also gives out "Land" if you register with them.

But it doesn't bestow a "title of nobility" with it; the only thing you get is a dram should you ever visit the distillery as "rent", and a rather nice-looking shingle to hang on your wall. The only title it comes with is "Friend of...."

Not really the same thing.

T.

[artificer]

One brand of Scotch also gives out "Land" if you register with them.

technically it's a "lifetime lease" not ownership.

But it doesn't bestow a "title of nobility" with it; the only thing you get is a dram should you ever visit the distillery as "rent", and a rather nice-looking shingle to hang on your wall. The only title it comes with is "Friend of...."

Not really the same thing.

T.

And you get use of the size 12 wellies!

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[Frank McGrath]

One brand of Scotch also gives out "Land" if you register with them.

Jack Daniels does rthe same thing. I own a plot of land in the hollow where The Distillery is. Along with the land comes a title. I am a Tennessee Squire. It got me lunch at the White Rabbit restaurant in Lynchburg, Tenn.

[Zardoz]

Jack Daniels does rthe same thing. I own a plot of land in the hollow where The Distillery is. Along with the land comes a title. I am a Tennessee Squire. It got me lunch at the White Rabbit restaurant in Lynchburg, Tenn.

Ha Ha Me too! And that lunch was more that I've ever got for any hereditary entitlements!

[O'Callaghan]

It is, however, possible to purchase an English title of Lord of the Manor. However, the correct style is either Fred Bloggs, Lord of Little Mucking OR Squire Bloggs, to take a made up example. IOW, it doesn't entitle you to use Lord in front of a name, which would indicate a peer, or in some cases customary usage by the son of a peer.

This type of title passes with the land, and is attached to the last part of the land not already sold off, which might be as little as a square foot. The title of Lord of Little Holland was actually given away in a newspaper competition, and was attached to a strip of beach, the rest of the estate having long since been sold off. Obviously, the title can't be sold multiple times to different people.

The best known modern example of someone who acquired a title by buying a property is Andrew Lloyd-Webber, the composer of musicals, or I should say Squire Lloyd-Webber, but note that he cannot style himself Lord Lloyd-Webber, although he would be lord OF somewhere-or-other. To be fair, he did buy the whole estate, but then I'm sure he could afford to.

We used to live a short distance from an old manor house, still inhabited by by the hereditary squire. He always wore a tweed suit and matching hat, and habitually rode an old bicycle. You would know it was his bike because the freewheel mechanism skipped, making a distinctive sound. He did own a very old car, what used to be called a bull-nosed Morris, which he took out perhaps once a year. I think one time he gave us eggs from his chickens, although I can't remember what good turn we had done him. A true eccentric, but his title wasn't bought.

[McClef]

I should point out that Andrew Lloyd Webber has been a Peer of the Realm since 1997 and thus has the title of Baron in his own right.

[Frank McGrath]

One brand of Scotch also gives out "Land" if you register with them.

Jack Daniels does the same thing. I own a plot of land in the hollow where The Distillery is. Along with the land comes a title. I am a Tennessee Squire. It got me lunch at the White Rabbit restaurant in Lynchburg, Tenn.

[Santa Kona]

There is a great deal of research involved in this site.