This hat needs Jock'd.

**MacKenzie** · 25th November 14, 06:39 PM

Jocking phase I

Ok from this angle.

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Not so much ok. Still too much stay puft.

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**Bruce Scott** · 25th November 14, 07:35 PM

I don't think that type of TOS responds all that well to 'Jocking', although pulling the crown forward over the eyes may help.

There are some different styles of wearing here but most still have the landing pad look.

**MacKenzie** · 26th November 14, 06:52 AM

That's a great pic, Bruce. Either of the fellows on the right is what I'm shooting for, more or less, but the quilted liner is giving the hat too much "puff". I think I have it headed in the right direction.

**Pleater** · 26th November 14, 06:59 AM

Is this more the look you're after?

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**MacKenzie** · 26th November 14, 07:45 AM

Not that much.... err... droop(?) Anne. Not for this lid. However, The Redhead is going to be making me a bonnet much like that.

I want this hat to maintain some shape, but right now it's still too poofy. Actually, the TOS on the lad in the front row, far right in the pic that Bruce posted (that appears to be the platoon/squad leader?) looks just right... to me.

**Pleater** · 26th November 14, 08:52 AM

Gotchah - the man with the sporran, his cap's top disc looks to be slightly domed rather than mortar board flat, but the ring is straight, so it sits slightly lower on the head whilst not losing that close kin to a Frisbee look. I wonder if the padding has had the middle removed so it is only in the outer ring of the tam, providing shaping but not support....

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**MacKenzie** · 26th November 14, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Pleater

Gotchah - the man with the sporran, his cap's top disc looks to be slightly domed rather than mortar board flat, but the ring is straight, so it sits slightly lower on the head

You've said what I've been thinking.

**jock gray** · 29th November 14, 05:03 PM

probably find that the one with the sporran is a piper......ORs wore a plain sporran if at all....pipers wore horse hair.
you will see the section sergeant on the back row left.

**jock gray** · 29th November 14, 05:15 PM

just enlarged photo....looks like a sergeants mess photo, all are ncos .....with the exception of the soldier with the crown on his sleeve a warrant officer !!!.
the one sporting the sporran would be a pipe major possibly.......I must admit the TAM O SHANTERS that they have on are typical of the period...dinner plates compared to the modern Issued ones.